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    My biggest problem with most of the shows listed is they have to outdo themselves and go on for too long.

    Season one: Great premise!

    Season Two: Same premise, but TWICE the danger!

    Season three: I don’t know, robot ninjas or something?

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      I miss when shows could just grow in the first season or two, and then you’d only get raising stakes two or three times a year (season finale/premier and sweeps). Otherwise they’re just stories.

      These days shows have to justify themselves right out of the gate.

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        The most infamous example of this is Supernatural where the first few seasons were very episodic and exactly what you described. Then, after season 5 it keep escalating until dudes are fighting off the end of the world for the 6th time lmao

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        These days shows have to justify themselves right out of the gate.

        I miss mid-budget live action scifi shows with strong enough episodic elements that I can actually remember individual episodes. These days seemingly every show feels like an 8-12 movie that blurs together.

        Star Trek Strange New Worlds is the closest current thing to an exception. Before that The Orville.

        Most other scifi that comes out has to be an “event”.

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          I miss mid-budget live action scifi shows with strong enough episodic elements that I can actually remember individual episodes

          Kamen Rider.

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          The Orville had that in the first season or so, after that it went heavy into serialization. I dont think I even finished whatever the last season was because of it.

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        Riverdale actually did what I’ve always wished for a boring failure of a show to do, and just completely go nuts.

        Oh our boring high school drama show is slumping? How about an organ stealing cult, a superhero, and a guy escaping from the cops in a rocketship!

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      Its more that they have to keep the money train going, than they have to outdo themselves.

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    The Walking Dead. Felt more like the Talking Dead, the pacing was far too slow for me and it didn’t seem like much was happening.

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    Squid Game.

    Bring on the down votes, I don’t care, that show was garbage and I was baffled at the HYPE around it.

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    Lost. I got about halfway through the first season back then until I couldn’t shake the impression that it was a bunch of convoluted horse shit produced by hacks who thought they were bleeding edge. History proved my impression correct.

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    Always Sunny and Arrested Development. Both shows are just people being really fucking stupid and it’s somehow hilarious.

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    Rick & Morty. Then the whole szechuan sauce thing happened and I can’t look at any content from that show without cringing. LOOK GUYS IM PICKLE RI-stop please it’s not funny.

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      The “community” is insufferable, but the show is solid. You might like Solar Opposites. The wall substory is amazing. Really good voice actors, can feel the tension and emotions in the voices

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      There’s a few shows where the fan base have made it so insufferable that I don’t want to even watch the show . But Rick and Morty are King in this category, the worst fans

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      Is there even still any Rick and morty fans left in the wild? After the whole case against one of the voice actors I never see them around too much anymore.

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          Yeah, it’s funny because of how terrible everyone is. I’m laughing because it’s outrageous, not because the characters are going through relatable hijinks.

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        Justin Roiland wasn’t just the voice actor for Rick, Morty, and various other roles, he was the co-creator, writer, and executive producer of the show alongside Dan Harmon. The whole thing is very much Roiland’s baby, and even after it came out that he’s an abuser and predator and the show fired him it continues to be his celebrated legacy.

        Fuck that guy and his stupid show.

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          Roiland is a co-creator, but it is very obvious that Dan Harmon took over the show for the better.

          Hell, the takeover happened while Roiland was still voicing Rick, so it isn’t like something important was lost after Roiland was fired.

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      I initially found that show a bit interesting, but I found myself feeling more and more cringey about what the show was churning out. I outgrew the whole thing just as the sauce thing was happening

      It later became well known what an actual piece of shit Justin Roiland is, and I felt pretty glad not to have been stuck in that fandom still feeling like his work was of any importance to me.

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    Never got the appeal of these ones. They aren’t bad shows, but they did not do it for me.

    Game of Thrones

    Lost

    Better Call Saul

    Peaky Blinders

    Breaking Bad

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      Shit. That’s exactly my list.

      • I didn’t even watch GoT long enough to see Emilia Clark in the buff. But, then, I’d read the first two books and absolutely loathed them, and didn’t find the TV series improved the story much.
      • I liked the first season of Lost, but the second felt like the writers were like, “oh shit… we got a second season? Shitshitshit…” Like they were just making it up as they went, and the writing and plot was just… bad.
      • I didn’t watch BCS because I didn’t like
      • Breaking Bad. I mean, I like scenes from BB, but the show itself suffered (for me) from this tendency in the past decade to base entire shows on tense anxiety. Boardwalk Empires was another that used this mechanism, as did
      • Peaky Blinders. Great writing. Great acting. But it’s just constant tension, and it’s simply not fun.

      It’s like directors got ahold of this one technique and just beat it into every fucking show in the past decade. It’s tired, overused, and you’ll notice it’s a common trait of many of the shows you and agree on. You have to have tension, but I didn’t need every god damned minute to be wondering if someone’s going to get their throat graphically slashed with a straight-edge.

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        Oh man! You just put to words why I couldn’t stand Breaking Bad, and Boardwalk Empire.

        I watched the first simply because a lot of people love it, and I try to watch everything that seems worth seeing. The second I saw some clips from that I really liked, but then I just didn’t stick with the actual show.

        In both cases, the series left me on constant edge, in a really bad way.

        Now I realize that I kept waiting for the shows to grant me some kind of catharsis, but it just never happened. Or it happened rarely and in ways that quickly gets brushed away as inconsequential.

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        this tendency in the past decade to base entire shows on tense anxiety.

        Yup. I call it the “drama of paranoia,” and it’s exhausting after a while. It also gives you a veneer of “prestige” without having to make characters I give a shit about or plots that fit together at all. As a good example of a show that realized this, Mad Men always struggled with a certain early-season plotline until they finally just ripped off the band-aid and said,

        spoiler

        the “real” Don Draper’s widow handwaves something out with our boy Dick, and literally nobody else gives a shit.

        What worked about that show had nothing to do with “ONE BIG SECRET.”

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      This, plus The Sopranos, The Office, Parks & Rec, IASIP, 30 Rock, etc.

      I get that they’re well liked, and they are the source of lots of meme material, but I could never manage to get through a whole episode.

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        I’ve never been able to make it through an entire episode of Community, for the same reason. It’s memeable, but I just don’t find it funny at all.

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    Lost was the tv version of clickbait. 3 concurrent story lines rotated from week to week. Every episode a cliffhanger that you had to wait 2 more weeks to resolve into a nothing burger. Even watching that shit on disc or streaming is annoying as fuck. I might have liked what was going on story wise, but I got too annoyed with the format to get past mid season 2.

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      Yeah. Lost was when I was intrugued by J J abrams style, and then completely turned off by his inability to tell a story or have a plan beyond the halfway point.

      And then they involved him in seemingly every major movie franchise ever for the next two decades… and he kept doing the same crap. Lots of flash and dazzle and dramatic moments that ultimately mean nothing because the characters have no story to tell, no real arc, no consistent rules creating a believable universe for the watcher to be sucked in to - any rules can be thrown out the window anytime a dramatic cliche opportunity arises. Yet he still seems very popular.

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      Lost went on far too long and they backed themselves into a corner by saying that the big secret was what nobody had guessed, but this was right around the Internet getting popular to talk about tv shows, so everything good had already been suggested. If it had been me, I would have just picked the best one and gone with that…

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      There is a recut of it, still available via torrent, called Chronologically LOST. It is every scene, but in chronological order, and only once each. Really cool way to see the show and make sense of it.

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      Unfortunately, mid season 2 is where it finally stops having enormous fluff and starts picking up pace. Fair criticisms though

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    Dark.

    First season was decent, but after a certain point the cognitive load required to keep track of the timeline(s) and character relationships just made it feel exhausting and not fun to watch.