We have teams. It sucks. They’re going to make us use it for phone calls soon.
The phone calls part is one of the better parts at least for me) for Teams. It has it’s own number, works on all the devices, can forward, and works well. I don’t want to carry a work phone, and don’t want a desk phone in the office (even though we have ones that connect to Teams). If there is a better solution that’s ‘cheaper’ all for it, but seems pretty sold.
My issue with it is people using their computers for calls; we have cheap ass dell laptops and there are always echoes and lags in the audio. When they finally set us up, I’m going to make sure all my calls are routed to my cell phone.
Oh that makes sense, I typically use a headset and avoid the built in trash that most laptops have and it seems to work pretty well.
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Users as in (office) workers. I cast a enormous doubt that there is no living person who chose Teams over literally any other messaging app just to use it for their main way of communication outside of their workspace.
“Users may hate”
Sweetly, we already hate everything MS. Take a wild guess…
Management on the other hand …
Am management. Still hate it. Costs a fucking fortune, sprawls beyond any reasonable control, fucking impossible to secure, every product has its own operating model and support, it changes every month, and the notion of leaving it is absurd. It is a disease that everyone is infected with and their sales people will never let you go. Also, it’s not like I can log into a central portal and see my employees on a map or something. I can’t see their searches, their teams chats, nothing really. Maybe HR could if they weren’t in the parking lot eating old cigarette butts or whatever it is they do.
Its like herpes.
Yep, not to mention it’s a basic messaging program, but it regularly uses 1-2gb of ram on a lot of machines at my workplace. Had a coworker vibe code a lightweight version (terminal based), he pretty easily got it down to 80ish mb, and it mostly worked (the whole thing was mostly for shits and giggles, but surprisingly usable).
I am logged in through vpn and use the web version. Microslop sucks
im sure there ar eother ways of tracking thier progress, like thier work/projects done on a deadline. its more or less a control issue.
Basically, Microsoft Places and Teams have received workplace check-ins via Wi-Fi. The idea is that if an employee arrives at the office and connects to their enterprise network, their profile status indicator will show them as being present in the office.
Joke’s on you. My work is so stingy, they don’t offer WiFi to employees. Also, I’ve blocked location permissions in Teams, just in case.
God damn I hate this universe, why is technology a tool to create new shackles instead of breaking old ones
Because it makes the people at the top more powerful.
I was at Shiny Night at one of the local Seattle furry bars a little while back and wound up hanging out with a bunch of folks in really well articulated fursuits talking shop. Eventually, as it does with any group of devs, the topic drifted to the classic game of “who hates Teams the most” and unfortunately it turned out the people I was drinking with:
1- Were mostly M$ developers working on Teams doing their ‘team bonding’ polycule thing.
2- Hate teams more than I could possibly ever manage. I mean, you think you hate teams? You think it’s unmanagable, insecure, convoluted and a pain in the ass for your IT crew? Imagine what the backend for that disaster must look like, then make that your entire day job. My god, it was a level of vitriol matched only by discussing Deutsche Bhan with a group of drunk Germans…
Since teams is for connecting people remotely (office to office, office to other departments, etc) what sense does this make?
Being “in office” has nothing to do with my location.
Microsoft sucks so much.
Easier to control if your employee is actually at the office instead of working from home.
It’s not like the pandemic proved most office jobs could actually be done remotely…
If it’s a new Teams feature I’m going to hate it regardless of what it does. MS doesn’t make software for human beings any more.
I too have a hard time seeing management as human,
We aren’t. When you humans are busy working, we go to the basement and eat the remants of your souls.
We also go to a lot of pointless meetings.
It will also introduce 50 new product-breaking bugs
it reduces the need to manually update your status, and it also enables co-workers to know that you’re at work so that they can coordinate in-person meetings with you.
They’re not even trying with these weak ass justifications anymore. Are either of these things an actual problem for anyone?
“Hey are you in the office” works well, too.
But IME if I am, they are just lining up at my door anyway and I can’t focus on actual work. At least when I WFH, I can ignore “hey you got a sec?” until I actually do.
“Hey are you in the office” is too much social interaction for the antisocial mindset of techbros it’d seem
My status is permanently set to Away so that people don’t bother me with stupid questions like “are you in the office”, although for some reason teams randomly resets my status to green every couple of weeks until I notice the increase in stupid questions.
Users “may” hate?
Many also do not care, unfortunately.
Let’s not get that Lemmy echo chamber vibe where a few dozen of us agree that millions of Windows users don’t exist.
Hell, most people don’t know the difference between a search engine and a browser
Yeah, the vast majority of people barely even know how to use a web browser. They won’t care about (or even notice) this change.
It’s not like people have a choice lol what are you going to do find a company using slack
Was there ever a MS Teams feature anyone actually liked? Seems like the whole product is based on loathing.
Teams isn’t made for the users.
I can’t for the life of me figure out who it is for.
Teams is a part of Office365. It has been widely utilized in corporate establishments.
Doubt any mere mortals would use it as their primary way of communication.
Features Microsoft wants to push and features companies want. It’s widely used because IT departments can just buy Office 365 and have all of the office apps and support for however they’re hosting the rest of their office 365 apps but that doesn’t mean it’s good
Management wanting to track your activity, Microsoft wanting your data,…
Good to remember that the client for Teams isn’t you - it’s your IT department
Lol, are you kidding? IT gets to experience the suck of using it, and of administrating it. For as bad as the front end of Microsoft stuff is, the back end is usually worse.
Wtf are you on about administering teams is braindead
No, it’s upper management. I don’t give a fuck what you’re doing all day as long as it doesn’t create security vulnerabilities in the environment
It’s for CSuite that doesn’t wanna pay for slack but sees teams bundled in office and says “good enough”
Well to be fair slack is quite expensive, and getting worse every year. Both in price and usability.
They recently cribbed the Catch Up feature directly from Slack. I’m a big fan of that. Come up with a good feature on their own? Nah.
I mean, that has been Microsoft’s MO for their entire existence. With the exception of maybe some versions of Visual Studio, everything they have done was see what they can copy off their competitors.
Wasn’t the original Visual Studio just Borland Turbo C++ with a non-ascii GUI?
If your whole ecosystem is in azure, it kind of works. Similar to gsuite
… For the admin. It’s easy for the admin. That’s not the users.
I bet some employers love that shit. They are Microslop Teams‘ main customers. Making our life miserable is a feature.
Microsoft says that this feature is basically a replacement for physical workplace check-in peripherals, it reduces the need to manually update your status
Considering how much I have to manually fix my regular teams status, I have doubts as to how effective this will be.
It would be very useful me to know if a colleague is in the office or not without the need to message them and wait for answer.
But yes, I have to fix my status roughly once per day, so I have doubt this feature will work properly.
It would be very useful me to know if a colleague is in the office or not without the need to message them and wait for answer.
But if you know they’re in the office, aren’t you then going to message them and wait for an answer?
users have the ability to control whether they want to enable it or not
So just don’t enable it then.
Home users, corporate users have group
policeedit: policy… Same thingIts likely they will be forced to and it may even be enforced by group policy at some time in the future if its not already
Hmm…
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Wow, and what an image…
Should give the teams logo a whip at this point
