I find this move concerning, and wish that the Founder had looked for a new CEO that shared his values rather than a Private Equity and Mergers Expert.
Furthermore, the change to the GRIT motto is worrying. Trust is useless without Transparency when it comes to code and security.
Well, it was fun while it lasted, lol.
Fuuuuuuck
It’s still glp though so how shitty can it be?
I knew trouble was brewing when they started adding the little corporate cute waving graphics and stuff to the UI. Glad I already migrated away
What are u using? I just got onto Bitwarden and set up all my credentials there!
Luckily BW is open source, and VaultWarden exists. If they enshitify, all it takes is a fork of the browser extensions and apps with a rebrand.
This right here is the only answer
Companies can try to steal the app but they can only steal the name
How would network hosting work, though? Like… do I need to pull my passwords down now?
They took the VC money
Nothing good ever lasts. Guess that’s entropy for you.
i guess unregulated capitalism is inherently entropic… since its utlimately a system that consumes itself until everything is gone and it dies and returns to background radiation.
From the article
Update: After publication, an employee on the Bitwarden subreddit said that “Always free” had been restored on its pricing page, calling it an “oversight” by the marketing team. The product page for Bitwarden’s personal password manager remains unchanged.
This is troubling and I am going to accelerate my migration to Vaultwarden. I’m not going to leave Bitwarden yet but I saw how this played out with LastPass, and I was a happy LastPass customer until I wasn’t.
Docker and caddy make this pretty easy. Even easier if you have a static ip and go to porkbun for a domain.
And that’s only if you wanna access it outside your network. Mostly you can get away with syncing before you leave.
I should get a cheap laptop and start self hosting…
Or just use ZeroTier/Tailscale/NetBird/Wireguard and you can access your server from anywhere without exposing it to the imternet directly.
Yeah I know but I’d rather just expose the services I want.
And I’d rather not deal with extra, unnecessary security concerns.
Cool. You do you and I’ll do me.
Proton pass has been fine for me. I don’t care that the one Proton guy said the one thing that time, I’m out of energy and it’s good enough.
Proton seems okay still at the moment, but with their growing in scope and success I imagine it’s only a matter of time
It’s just annoying on Android because it often struggles if there’s a “remember me” checkbox. And there aren’t separate fields for username and email.
Another happy proton pass user here, i do care about what that one guy said but not enough to switch to another service. Not foss, but it’s definitely a good enough thing for me.
Yeah I think you said it better. If I boycotted every company that employs one person I disagree with I would be self hosting everything. Proton represents the best in privacy-focused non-Google/Microsoft hosted email and productivity services. There are numerous reasons that we should want to see them succeed if even just to take some market share from Google.
I feel like switching to self hosted vaultwarden was one of my best moves of the year
I just tried it and it took me 5 minutes, since I use yunohost Just add app, setup admin account, invite myself, then import my bitwarden.org vault (after password encrypting the json export, of course)
Same. But it’s an ugly UX. I liked keepassxc UX better.
Been planning to do this just because; now it seems it’s strictly necessary.
Gotta figure out how docker, containerization and all that jazz works. I have an account with hetzner but just web/sql hosting and a managed Nextcloud instance - no vps yet.
Seems like a Saturday project that I hope I can get round to.
I tried for it today on an LXC at home but its proving to be a pain in the ass due to my DNS provider, DreamHost. I’ll figure it out later, but this isn’t as turnkey as I had hoped.
reading this as someone who migrated the rest of the household to Bitwarden literally yesterday: 😒
It took me years after the lastpass breach to get my wife and 1/3 of my kids to switch to Bitwarden. I am not looking to having to migrate again.
but exporting is easy with bitwarden. this is annoying. after the age check laws, i have been moving off big companies because it will be bad snd i know my migration will take a bit. i finalized bitwarden a couple weeks ago and was just about to assist my family.
i would not be as upset if ram and harddtives didnt cost a mortgage right now.
It does not matter how easy exporting is, the difficulty is going someone who really does not understand why they should be using a password locker to use one, much less change to a different one.
What do you use it for?
Why the fuck does everything that’s good turn to shit? This world sucks. This timeline sucks.
VC ruins everything
This is literally a product where a hobbyist tried to fix a niche, and now the VCs arrive.
it’s all motivated by the accumulation of wealth = capitalism
Accumulation of power is a common motive regardless of political system. Money is just one way power gets expressed.
Not claiming our system is perfect by any means. But this thought, to me, always felt like kicking the can down the road.
It’s not a timeline. It’s just the world we keep making. The only one.
This was the headline that finally prompted me to figure out why KeePass wasn’t working on Librewolf.
(KeePass doesn’t work with the flatpak version of Librewolf, you need to install it through terminal.)
I figured you have to layer the browser on the system. The KeePassXC can stay flatpak. That’s how it worked for me. You always want to have one browser layered, anyways.
I don’t know what this means, “… one browser layered…” I suppose I can search it… sigh, something else to figure out.
It does work with some effort, even the flatpak version. I recall finding a github issue about it and then with some trial and error, it works.
Was good while it lasted. Thanks for getting me off LastPass. See ya
Glad I didn’t let myself get talked into switching to Bitwarden from my boring KeepassXC setup…
