Wayland is breaking a solid 30%-40% of everything on my computer right now, but I want to be better prepared for if/when I don’t have an x11 option.

Is there a forum or place where people listen and actually try to help you find fixes/workarounds for Wayland problems?

  • jokeyrhyme@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1·
    1 hour ago

    to help communicate and troubleshoot what is broken here, we need to think of Wayland as a protocol just like HTTP is a protocol

    saying “Wayland broke X” is like saying “HTTP broke X”, which is possible but not likely to be what you’re actually trying to say

    rather, we need to be talking about the implementation(s) of the protocol, not the protocol itself

    e.g. “HTTP broke X” -> “Google Chrome broke X”

    e.g. “Wayland broke X” -> “GNOME broke X”

  • apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml
    3·
    8 hours ago

    Is this on a fresh install, or have you installed a Wayland DE on an existing distro? If so, you may be missing some packages. What DE are you using for both X and Wayland?

    I’m surprised wlr-randr is missing a display that xrandr can see, they should be looking at the same place for the display info. If you hunt through dmesg do you see any errors related to “EDID”?

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
    101·
    12 hours ago

    Breaking 30-40% of your things? Are you sure those are Wayland issues?

    • notreallyhere@lemmy.worldOP
      3·
      10 hours ago

      well I was looking for a forum to start cataloging it but off the top of my head:

      copyq

      gnome-pie

      miss assigning xwayland

      not recognizing USB c monitors seen by xrandr

      window taring

      sudo commands

      executable binaries

      lots more

  • HelloRoot@lemy.lolEnglish
    251·
    17 hours ago

    1. use a modern, popular distro. There are less things broken and you get more support

    2. do a fresh install with a fresh user to nor carry over your broken configs and customizations. Do everything from scratch again

    3. Tackle the issues one by one and provide detailed steps to reproduce, error messages, logs, screenshots or videos. You can ask right here on lemmy, but you’ll probably get more eyes on it on reddit tbh.

    I felt just like you a long time ago when kde introduced wayland at the end of 2016. After a couple of super frustrating months, I made a backup of my /home, migrated my archlinux to btrfs (by doing a fresh install) so I can have snapshots and revert if I mess something.

    Had only minor issues since then and most have been fixed some years later. Others I’ve learned how to work around (for example by using gamescope, because I have mixed resolution multi monitor setup and some games think my 2k screen is 4k)

      • Redex@lemmy.world
        1·
        6 hours ago

        I literally just installed fedora 43 KDE on my laptop, spent like 2 hours trying to get it to boot (would black screen after a fresh install, apparently multiple people have the same issue for months, idk why no official fix has been released, but a community .iso worked for me)

        But after that, holy fuck do I love it way more than gnome. I just hated gnome and everything about it, but most poplular distros I tried used it. I finally decided to try KDE and now I wish I did it earlier

  • Grass@sh.itjust.works
    151·
    16 hours ago

    still? what distro and what problems? I can’t even think of anything I would attribute to wayland when I did the distro hop that put me on it.

    • Fleppensteyn@feddit.nl
      4·
      13 hours ago

      I tried Wayland for a day but went back to x11 (using KDE Neon) because of annoyances. Mostly input-related issues:

      – I used Fusuma to remap extra mouse buttons, which doesn’t work anymore

      – Touchpad scrolling is buggy and pinch to zoom barely works

      – Espanso has a Wayland version but doesn’t work most of the time

      – select with shift+arrow and release shift: it also releases the arrow so you have to press it again (seems small but annoys me)

      And there’s problems with windows opening on the wrong screen and then completely crashing when you try to move it (under Wine with full screen at least), and some apps with weird behaviors like drag and drop not working.