In the 90’s a lot of popular song were pretty political, remember Killing in the name of and even the skate pop-punk has pretty popular political song’s (Offspring, Blink Green-day). Actually political movies were also quite big in the 90’s/00’s (French Masterpiece La haine, or the whole work of Michael Moore).
I would expect to see that the people who were teens/young adult at the time would tackle all these issues 20-30 years latter when they’ll finally take the power and the reality is that everything got worse, than even talking about-it make you sound like a radical, and that the gen-X/Millennials totally failed to change something.
What happened ? and how did we fail ?
Everyone thinks grandpa should die but nobody wants to kill their grandpa
Boomers are still in electorate power by a long shot.
I feel like this is pretty much it.
We’re busy AF trying to live and the boomers now have nothing to do except vote.
I’m 40. The largest voting group in my country is 60+. It really doesn’t have a lot of effect what you vote or try to do as someone <60, 60+ decides. Same goes for a lot of companies I’ve been in. 50+ is in the majority, especially in positions of power. Either learn to talk like them and kiss their ass or you’ll never succeed and be out of the job in no time.
Millenials are just not in charge. I’ve seen it in so many areas of life, be it business or civil society. Younger people try to change something and someone 50/60+ will scream bloody murder so things will stay the same because “we can’t alienate those people”.
Every generation has lost at class warfare.
You can pretty much vibe out the answer by looking at how the world is today. We have as standard devices in our pockets at all times that can connect us to anyone else. Anyone can create a video message that can be seen by pretty much anyone and everyone on the planet.
In theory we have more power and potential unity than any other human society in history, and its somehow getting worse.
It’s been this way since before the banking system of the Catholic Church by the Medici family in Italy in the 1400s. Money always breeds corruption and power. Nothing new, history repeats itself. We just need to start killing the rich like they did back then. Corruption and abuse/extortion should face actual consequences.
All the generational stuff does is divide us. No war but class war.
Millennials were children in the 90s, don’t blame us we didn’t fix shit.
It’s been the obscenely wealthy of every generation that has fucked everything, not any one demographic in particular.
I’m 45, I’ve been pegged into being a gen x-er, and a millennial. I can’t really speak for either generation, but at this point I feel I have more in common financially with millennials, despite having absolutely 0 adult supervision the way many genXers experienced. What I can say is that my cohort is tired, financially fucked over, and ready to burn it all to the ground.
Millennials failed by not being born in the 50’s. I think you’re making an assumption that newer generations took over politically from Boomers and The Silent Generation, but that shift never occurred. We failed at political change because we never had the same political, social, and economic power as Boomers.
This is the correct answer.
And as Boomers are slowly getting older, even they now see that they need a successor. So they look at… GenZ.
I slowly realize us GenX and Millenials are just some sort of placeholder generation.
Gen X are the Trumpers.
https://williamfleitch.medium.com/why-did-generation-x-go-so-hard-for-trump-ab5ce5ac8659
No wonder Kurt ate a shotgun rather than be a part of y’all
Kurt might have supported Trump. He was not a sensitive artist opposed to capitalism.
Are you fucking high? His suicide note spefically calls out capitalism and its impact on making art.
Nope, has it ever occurred to you how full of shit Cobain was? He wasn’t a leftist by any standard. Go ask his wife.
Not high? Then you are just stupid. Good to know.
Don’t bother replying. I won’t read it. I have enough morons spouting bullshit on the TV and in the news.
Agree. This guy should go back to Reddit. I’ve been here for a few weeks and he’s actually the first aggressive asshole I’ve seen, so at least that’s something.
It’s a class war, not a generational one. Millennials have just as many rich jerks as any other generation.
There is an element of generational conflict that is tied into the class war. Most Boomers have moved on from being labor to being on fixed income and capital returns.
A bunch of assets millineals will never have. They are not aware of how pretentious they are with their retirement parties while they invite those who have no hopes of ever having one. It’s so frustrating. It’s like, yay, I’ll just come celebrate your pension and your lufe with goals while my generation plans a bullet for retirement.
Those are songs, not actions. Many of us had much larger plans and were sold a life that we never had the opportunity to have.
Most of us got trapped in low wage jobs or not getting a job at all after college. All of us had to go through several recessions, inflation skyrocketing, politicians bought by the wealthy so you can’t run for office unless you are well connected, housing market crashed, etc.
Getting into politics to change all of the issues we saw was never an option. There is always a wealthier, better connected opponent to win.
Trickle down economics was a lie and most of us got cheated out of life and never got to amass the wealth needed to actually MAKE CHANGE HAPPEN. We spend all our time working, keeping our little relationships alive, and trying to make it day to day.
We never got the power. Look at the government, everyone is 80 years old.
I think the basic premise of your question is kind of flawed.
Generational age brackets are always a little fuzzy, but most definitions tend to define millennials as people born from about 1981-1996
Which means come the end of the 90’s, the oldest millennials were just turning 18, the youngest were just entering preschool, the “average” millennial would have been about 10. Personally, I was 8 in 1999.
So most of us weren’t exactly politically-aware in the 90s, let alone actively criticizing anything besides homework. And a lot of us probably had parents who wouldn’t have let us listen to RATM because of the parental advisory sticker on their albums.
My main concerns at the time were things like video games and cartoons
Then right around the time we started to be old enough to really form political opinions, 9/11 happened and the world went insane around us.
Because there’s still more boomers than gen X…
Even after a lot of boomers are dying off. Generations after X were immediately larger, so there’s never been or never will be a time where Gen X is the largest/target demographic.
It just happens like that sometimes, Gen X just never had the numbers
Gen X became the boomers I think. Seems it’s a trend when you get older you get crazier.
You can’t even lump Gen X as a group…
People that were married with kids before the Internet have nothing in common with late Gen X who grew up with computes; “the Oregon trail generation”.
The oldest and youngest Gen X just had widely different experiences that shaped them differently. It’s the result of starting out defining generations around societal changes so they’re similar, and then just doing it on a set schedule regardless of what’s happening.
So yeah, the oldest Gen X are a lot like boomers.
Quick edit:
Seems it’s a trend when you get older you get crazier.
As we age we lose critical thinking, memory, and other stuff.
So our brains start falling back on “cheats” like bigotry, instead of dealing with people as individuals, which is hard, your brain just assumes they’ll act like everyone else from their group.
We fall back on in-group/out group biases learned as kids.
So kids that were socialized around other groups, won’t see it as much.
Which is why the bigots fight so hard against diversity in children’s media. The boots on the ground are idiots, but the people planning and calling shots aren’t idiots. They’re usually not even bigots themselves, just manufacturing conflict to divide us so we don’t unite against them.
Don’t look at me, I died of dysentery.
American Dad had an Oregon Trail episode, and hit on the idea that spending so much time playing a game where your party just randomly dies from shit like dysenteryprobably has a measurable effect on that cohorts psyche…
Like how old school kids stories were brutal as fuck to get kids used to real life, and the opposite is the Disneyfication of always ending “happily ever after”.
Younger generations expect everything to work out and good to win and evil to fail automatically. Which I think is why so many people refuse to move past “raising awareness”.
They legitimately believe that if enough people are aware of a problem, it’ll just stop being a problem on its own
“If you’re not a liberal when you’re 20, you have no heart; if you’re not a conservative when you’re 40, you have no head.”
A quote tossed at me by a MAGA friend before Trump won in 2106. I stopped talking to them for a year or so because I didn’t want to say something that would actually end our friendship.
It’s such a fucking stupid, insulting quote.
Why’s that?
Because being a liberal (not the leftist definition of liberal) doesn’t mean you have no brain.
I’m assuming by your question that you’re implying it’s true, which funny enough gives some credence to the first part of the quote. Unless of course you’re a leftist, at that point we’re just quibbling over terminology.
I’m assuming by your question that you’re implying it’s true
Waauw, I’m not even allowed to ask a question. Very intolerant thought policing crowd here!
Unless of course you’re a leftist
I live in a country with more than 2 political parties and ideologies. So the US false dichotomy luckily doesn’t apply.
But I do get now why people think your side of the split is insufferable holy canoly!
No one said you’re not allowed to ask questions…
As for the “leftist” part, this is Lemmy, and spending enough time here you learn that liberal has a very different meaning to some people so I was just covering my bases.
