God promised them a song contest 3000 years ago, you heathens.
Probably different decisionmakers, but also not having a unified stance on Israel is kinda showing them as weak.
So that’s how many members already?
-4-5?-Spain
-Ireland
-Slovenia
-Netherlands
-IcelandHope there will be more.
Add Iceland to the list too
Slovenia has been up to some good stuff recently, first they imposed an arms embargo on israel, now this. I’m proud of my little country
Didn’t we say that we are not considering participation because organizer doesn’t listen to us and not because of Israel? Anyway, waiting years for this realization is lame. Better late than never but still… Take note that many Slovene universities and other institutions still
merelymerrily collaborate with Israel, also we have bo problems hosting Israeli national sport teams and even use police to avoid protests and so on. And that arms embargo, Slovenia doesn’t even know what transits through. We also don’t want anything with lawsuits against genocide. Yes, it’s a step or two in the right direction but far away from something big.Fair point
Small country, big hearth?!
I feel ashamed that my country is not on this list.
Same, with even our ministry of the sports that said that “the Gaza operation is not as aggressive, not as bloody as the Russian invasion of Ukraine to justify banning Israel from the Olympics”. WTF did you smoke?
As an Australian, same here.
That said its bemused me as to why we’re even there.
I was told the show is very popular in Australia, is that true?
I don’t really mind the contestants outside Europe, I think it’s pretty cool they invited Australia if Australians are indeed fans of the show.
it might still come to consider it, don’t give up hope, yet.
Dear god, just take some sanctions like you did with Russia.
Russia bad, bad, bad. Israel good. Where is the problem, Citizen?
You have right, I’m sorry. And according to the famous actor/comedian Jerry Seinfeld, supporters of Palestine are worse than the KKK supporters.
You mean the same Jerry Seinfeld who was “dating” a 17-year-old high school student when he was 39? The one who was on TV a quarter of a century ago?
Because that dude can fuck himself.
I’m already trying to use AI to replace Jerry with Bassem Youssef’s face in Seinfeld episodes.
There are already sanctions (violent settlers got their asset frozen, and are forbidden to fly to many countries). Problem is that they take that as a badge of honor, and they don’t have enough outside assets to really be a problem to them.
We are asking to sanctions israel not just settler. Isrsel built thise settlements to begin with, thrn they armed the settlers than they protected them when they attack westbanker
Hunting the peasants instead of their bosses is on the same level as the Eurovision blockade to me.
Why is israel, a country in the middle east, a part of Eurovision to begin with? Very telling.
Because they are part of the European Broadcast Union (EBU), just like other non-European countries including Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia and Georgia. That said, just like Russia, their membership should be suspended.
I’m completely fine with non-European countries participating. Australia (the one with the kangaroos) isn’t even an EBU member, but has been participating in the Eurovision for the last ten years and I think it’s great to see the world grow closer like that.
Is there a different Australia or were you just making it clear it wasn’t a typo for Austria?
Tunisia and Lebanon tried to participate in 1977 and 2005 respectively (the latter even selected Aline Lahoud as their representative), but their participations were ultimately thrown out the window once they found out that Israel was there.
Morocco actually did participate in 1980, when Israel left after literally winning the second year in a row. Morocco never returned, even after recognizing Israel, and even in the later years when Israel was absent.
Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and the Vatican City all can participate since they have broadcasters that are a part of the EBU, but they choose not to, mostly due to Israel participating, which half of these countries don’t recognize. Also who would the Vatican even send to Eurovision, one of their Cardinals? Oh yeah, Kazakhstan, an EBU associate, even participated in Junior Eurovision, but never in the adult contest. They are in the running for a special invitation though, whether it actually happens is something only time will tell.
Also who would the Vatican even send to Eurovision
There was a nun who won The Voice
(But since that, she renounced her vows to focus on her musical career)
Guess I was such a clueless idiot.
Didn’t the last Pope have a rock album?
Yeah. But I bet the EBU’s gonna be like “you can’t send your leader, that’s political”.
Though, EBU’s bullshit statements aside, I kinda wonder what fire music will be unleashed by Pope Leo.
It’s a nonsense joke. Australia is also there. Just kill Eurovision and call it something else for fucks sake
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Now you mention them, interesting how Israel and Russia are matter of discussion and Azerbaijan isn’t despite their invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh
I think we’re seeing the same reaction as when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. Basically “oh no this is not okay. anyway…”.
Australia, Armenia, and Morocco are all outside of Europe, and have completed too. Basically all European countries are eligible, plus those whose public broadcasters are part of the European Broadcasting Union.
Armenia being outside of Europe is still kinda debatable if you ask me.
I mean, it’s in western Asia, next to Azerbaijan and Georgia. “Complicated definitions of Europe” are part of the point here, but it’s pretty clearly not Europe in my mind, but given the Turkish border, it’s not far from Europe like Australia is
Morocco? Completed it mate
It is filled with European colonists.
As a Dutch person, I’m very glad we’ve made this decision. After reading about Ireland doing the same I didn’t think we would but I’m glad that we did and also that we’ve decided on this somewhat early instead of waiting to see what the “bigger” countries are doing like we usually do with these things.
Countries are finally speaking up about this, I’ve been waiting for like, 2 years already.
Israel has undeniably brought the contest into disrepute twice in a row with them sending basically political entries with shady ad campaigns that made a select few voters disproportionately vote for Israel, causing them to spike up in the ranking (almost winning the 2025 contest; JJ is our savior), and yet the EBU just doesn’t even care about this? And when Russia did the whole “let’s take all of Ukraine” move, it took 10 countries to immediately speak up for them to get suspended. Ukraine won that year btw. Like… if the EBU are gonna keep saying the Eurovision Song Contest is “apolitical”, then they have to accept the harsh reality that making your participants be countries immediately makes it otherwise. And this is not the exception, it’s the norm. Both the Olympic Games and the FIFA World Cup have had similar disrepute incidents in the past, most notably with apartheid South Africa.
Either way, if more countries drop out due to Israel’s continued participate, that could ultimately result in enough awareness for the EBU to finally kick them out for good. Otherwise, the only solution is the privatization of their broadcaster, which literally nobody wants.
Also the commentator in the Israeli live broadcast called every artist who had called the war a genocide an anti-Semite on live tv. Yeah if the EBU wants their contest to stay apolitical than they need to ban the Israeli broadcaster for the commentator’s toxic comments.
This year in 2025, they even made fun of the Armenians. I can’t remember exactly what they said, but it was definitely something along the lines of “I can’t believe we gave these guys a quarter in Jerusalem”
I have ultimately lost faith in these commentators. So much for being an “independent reporter”, EBU. I mean yeah, they’re facing the threat of privatization, but for now they’re public and state-owned, so there’s literally no excuses here.
And FIFA and the IOC are repeating the same errors in 2026 and 2028
I mentioned both their competitions in my comment.
Can’t wait for the UK, Germany, and France Song Contest. I bet France still gives us nul points. /j
They should really say that they will pull out of the show if israel and the zionists are allowed to sponsor the show through Moroccanoil and Estee Lauder.
THAT would hurt.
It very important to note that Israel is NOT part of Europe. It’s in the Middle East, which is in ASIA.
Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia. Heck, Australia… If these are Europe, then so is Israel.
That said, I don’t think we should exclude Israel from participating in Eurovision on a geographic basis. We should exclude them instead because they are an ethnofascist apartheid colony that’s committing genocide on its population.
They were also very clearly rigging the votes in the last Eurovision by having an online campaign aimed at making people vote for them (advertising like that is forbidden by Eurovision rules)
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Because Eurovision doesn’t have “Must be a european country” as a rule
Instead the rule is: must be a member of the European Broadcasting Union, which is notably different from Europe or EU: some African countries are members too.
It’s because they’re part of the EBU (not sure why though, the E here also stands for European). I think that’s the actual qualification for entry.
The E in EBC is basically as relevant as the E in European Article Number (EAN) which are used globally.
Asiavision doesn’t have the same ratings tho
Good. Good. If enough countries retire we may have a chance to win.
I don’t know where you’re from, but with a statement like that I can tell it isn’t Ireland or Sweden. Those guys have had their share.
I wish my country was that smart.
Same :(
Good. We need more of this. Israel needs to be isolated as the pariah state it is.
Israel should go back to sound as the bad idea it is.
Oh wow, AVROTROS (the broadcaster) finally found a spine? Where was this last year after the incident with Joost Klein?
I don’t think they found a spine so much as they’ve seen the turning of the tide in the media re: Israel Palestine conflict, with several major media outlets running pieces agreeing that it’s a genocide in the last month or so (BBC, Sky, Reuters, etc).
Aside - I also would like to understand what the turning point was with these media groups where they suddenly pivoted from “Israel are purely defending themselves” to “this is a campaign of genocide”. Its like they hit some arbitrary number. 67,026 = self defence, 67,027 = oh gosh oh wow that’s genocide.
It’s a proxy war against the USA.
Oh we did? Fucking nice! Many people didn’t want to touch this, but I’m glad it went through anyway!
