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  • You don’t seem to understand that Hamas can be both an indigenous resistance group retaliating against Israel and financed by Israel in its early years as a religious counterbalance to the secular PLO.

    I understand that hamas is an islamist group that have an different ideology to plo. What you are ignoring is that despite that Hamas colaborate with non islamist groups. The problem is that your argument is used to deligetimize Hamas as a resistsnce group.

    You also don’t seem to understand how it is beneficial to Israel to be fighting a group like Hamas over the PLO in how Israel presents this conflict to the media and the world. Israel can point at Hamas and say “look at these Muslim extremists, you can’t negotiate with them. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, looks what Hamas do to women and gays! This war is to do with religion, the Muslims always want to destroy the Jews.” This narrative was not possible against the PLO, if you can’t see how this situation favours Israel when selling the story to the Western audiences and how Israel much prefers it this way you are hopelessly myopic.

    Yes, I don’t understand. Before hamas. Israel was talking about how the plo is a terrrorist group blowing up israelis . Nothing changed. They will always find an excuse and someone to blame .

    But most people are not dumb. They undwrstand settler colonialism is one of the worst thing ever , worse than religious extremists. They know that torturing people, raping people, stealing their homes is bad. Rhey understand that an occupied population can’t be worse than an occupier



  • Mujama al-Islamiya and hamas are two different organizations funded by the same person. There is no evidence that the funds dedicated to Mujama was used for hamas. Israel also financed secular groups like Village Leagues.

    The fact is that certian cunning people want you to believe that Hamas is not a resistance group that retaliate for israel colonial policies and war crimes. They want you to believe it is a simple tool for Israel. You are falling into israel game. I want the plo to back to it’s root as a real liberation . Israel has been breaching the oslo accords for decades. Doing slow genocide in the west bank


  • Which secular liberation group are you talking about? Fact is hamas is the strongest liberation group that collaborated with secular groups retaliating for demolition compaigns in the west bank and settler terrorism in the west bank.

    While hamas is always liberating fatah members, the pa refuse to push for liberation of Barghouthi a fatah members with the most support by palestinians

    Your trashy country called france should ask israel the settler colonial power to disarm and should stop selling weapons to the terrorist state of Israel. Who are you to tell palestinians that they should nevet allow hamas to participate in elections?


  • The point of saying it is to show that Israel funded a group of religious extremists to destroy Yasser Arafat’s PLOs progress towards peace and a two state solution.

    Israel did not fund Hamas. Qatar send funds to the Hamas goverment. Israel allowed the fund to pass just like they allow fund and goods to pass in the west bank.

    The statement make it looks like Hamas had no legitimate concerns about the oslo accords. They was proves to be right. During the talks israel increased settlements. Rabin did not agree to a full independent palestinians state with all it’s rights and all the territories sized in 67. Rsbin used the term less than a state. The intention is exactly what is currently implemented in the west bank

    By not fully recognizing Hamas winning the election Fatah part of the plo fell for it. Both hamas and the plo also dhare the same responsability for the violence between them

    Israel found it difficult to demonise the secular PLO to Western audiences.

    It was never difficult for israel to demonize the plo and the plo far less secular than you think

    The PLO didn’t fall for anything either, they called out Israel’s actions at the time but had little power to actually do anything about it as they didn’t control the media narrative. This is still irrelevant to whether or not the argument is in good faith or not.

    Isrsel never stopped stealing more land , arming and defending settlers with the PA collaboration.

    What is irelevant is the narative that hamas is only israel’s tool. Thr relevant part is that the PA is collaborating with Israel knowing very well. At some point israel could annex the west bank


  • There is nothing than enter and exit palestine without Israel approval. For weird reason, allow funds to enter gaza makes hamas an israeli tool but doing the same thing to the PA doesn’t.

    Fatah refused to accept hamas winning the election in Gaza. The PA is currently doing nothing about the settlers but act like a second security force for Israel while despite hamas attrocities , they are the one responding to israel expending colonies, to the torture and raping on palestinians prisoners and west bankers

    Edit : I would also known what the point exactly of saying israel used Hamas to sabotage the PLO. How can it be used to help palestinians today. If it was a good faith argument , people would mention that the plo fall for it