From age and ID restrictions on the Internet, to charging rappers with “terrorism,” the U.K. is demolishing the most basic civil liberties. If we let them, U.S. leaders may be close behind.

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    “and america could be next!” they literally have domestic concentration camps in america there is no freedom there

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    Hopefully this doesn’t devolve into another USA vs UK shit flinging contest. Authoritarianism is on the rise everywhere, Trump and Starmer are both utilising state power to crack down on dissent and opposition. Those of us who are opposed to this shit are on the same side.

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    That was lost a while ago, but it’s nice more people are noticing that it’s getting worse.

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    Just what the fuck is this timeline? I was born in Russia and spent a good chunk of my life basically idolizing USA, UK, EU, other European countries, English-first countries, etc.

    By the time I had the language and professional skills to try and migrate into a probably really good life, suddenly there’s a rise of authoritarianism, loss of privacy, rollback to the political right and intolerance and hatred and whatever.

    There’s still a long way for these nations to go before things are as bad as here, but the differences still are dwindling at an alarming rate and I often find myself wondering if it’s gonna be worth the effort if I want to eventually move to someplace that still respects privacy and freedom and is sensible about the Internet and digital technologies.

    There’s still a lot of perks from knowing English as well as I do, but at this point, I think I’d have to learn German or Swedish or some other northern EU language if I ever make up my mind.

    And by the time I’m ready, these countries will roll out some bullshit, too, right?

    And then there’s Visa and MasterCard telling you what you can and can’t purchase because some conservative cesspool wrote some emails - but gamers’ emails are ignored…

    It’s all so demoralising. I miss looking forward to the future with hope and excitement for things.

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      And then there’s Visa and MasterCard telling you what you can and can’t purchase because some conservative cesspool wrote some emails

      They didn’t just write emails, they actually picked up the phone and called them, non stop. They made it into a problem that couldn’t be ignored. Gamers haven’t done that, unfortunately.

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      what’s happening is our current system right now is in the process of failing. it’s dying, it didn’t work and it can no longer sustain itself. Someone once said something along the lines of “When the current system fails, the next one will consist of whatever ideas are left”

      So what ideas are left? the ideas of the far right, just like far right ideas are ALWAYS left when a system is about to die. So all these governments, all these wealthy individuals, all these people that have the most to gain are are going start backing the new up coming system. We’re seeing it in real time.

      But this has happened time and time again. We’re a collectively dumb species and love watching repeats. it’s always the same song and dance “well lets go this way, sure it didn’t work out last time but I don’t believe it’ll happen to us THIS time”.

      So it’s not so much “what the fuck is this timeline” but rather “well it’s our generations turn for bullshit”. And it always skips a generation. So the boomers didn’t experience it, but their parents did, and now it’s our turn. Hopefully our children or our Kids children will be smarter than boomers but…we as humans sure do love watching reruns.

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        You can now do secondary schools in English in Finland.

        Except if you speak Finnish or Swedish as a native language.

        Fucking stupid addition. Some right-wingers afraid of Finnish dying must’ve added it to the legislation but it’s beyond silly and not having it would promote integration of non-Finnish speaking immigrants with Finnish/Swedish speaking natives. And there definitely isn’t a lot of people who would prefer doing secondary school in English. Probably more from the newer generations but still a tiny minority.

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        Back in the '80s my British father would get as far as opening his mouth to use the Swedish he’d been practicing before the shopkeeper would preempt him in flawless English “How can I help you, sir?”.

        My inlaws actually don’t speak any English and they’re the first adult Swedes I’ve known that don’t. Fortunately I speak Swedish fluently but it was comedically awkward for my wife’s previous British boyfriends!

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      Well, UK partially aside, your country is the root cause of all the shit happening here. Specifically Putin el Puto.

      Well, not so much “cause” as pouring gasoline on what was a light smolder.

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        This is absolutely insane. Russia is NOT the root cause of anything bad happening in the United States. Pull your head out of your ass.

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        You’re shifting way too much blame on Russia. Our democracies are failing by themselves, because of complacent politicians who care more about their career and being elected than doing good for their countries. Politicians who learned they don’t have to apply their promises and everything will turn out fine. Voters got pissed and fell for far right lies and propaganda.

        It turned into a roaring fire by itself. Putin just made sure the fire doors don’t shut.

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          Of course those countries had issues - including the USA.

          But it’s Russia that interfered enough to put the far right in those countries in power. Like I said, they poured gasoline on what was already a fire

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      FYI Germany has been rolling out bullshit already, so that’s one out for the count. I’m in a similar situation to you, and I think it’s time to give up on the traditional first world. The future for economic immigrants is honestly pretty bleak, but your best bet is either the sane part of Eastern Europe (here’s hoping Ukraine pulls through with its democracy intact), South America or somewhere in Southeast Asia if you’re looking for a democracy with a decent standard of living.

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    I already can’t say what I really think about politicians and CEOs without getting banned from comments all over the place, so didn’t preach to me about censorship. I’m already chest deep in this shit.

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        I don’t know if you just don’t pay attention or if you haven’t been on world much like this community is.

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    Remember VPNs definitely don’t help here, definitely don’t try to skirt any protections using a VPN, definitely remember to have your ID with you at the ready for any website to show to.

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      If you could project into the future, you might see that VPNs are a dwindling non-solution to the problem. As this unsettling trend makes waves across all jurisdictions in the world, every VPN’s IP will be subject to these new controls.* Eventually normies might need to understand technologies like Tor or I2P. Only problem is, if things get really bad they might ban the use of both outright. I’m not sure if I2P can be detected just as Tor, but I do know Tor users can be detected easily. Which is why if you’re in a “censorship” country you need to use some sort of special subset of entry guards. I2P might be better because every node in the network is like a router, none are specifically entry, middle, or exit nodes. Only thing I could think of, maybe some form of deep packet inspection? If everybody runs an I2P router, then simply making requests to other nodes is not enough to determine it’s an i2p communication?* It’s just distributed computing, the way the internet was intended!

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        Any other useful info like this? Tryna snag as much of this stuff as possible (taking screenshots and offline copies of the pages) in the event it becomes unavailable and my existing methods fail on me.

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          You can simply go to the official tor or i2p pages and read more about details, then do follow up research from there. With i2p there’s actually a few parallel implementations actively being developed. Original is in Java, there’s a C++ one, and then another one I can’t remember. Very new implementations are being made in Rust as well

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          Thanks for volunteering to help the network in good faith! I think it is much easier for normal people to get an i2p router up and running and help the entire network, instead of setting up a tor node. And with the use of inbound/outbound unidirectional tunnels (which you can set up to 5 nodes each), you could theoretically have a 10 node round trip of intermediate tunnels between you and a server, as opposed to tor which uses a bidirectional tunnel.

          Some gracious users set up what is known as an “outbound proxy”, which acts like tor exit node to the clearnet. Personally I would never host one of these, as I am hesitant of having anonymous entities make clearnet requests and being held liable. But as an i2p router in somebody else’s tunnels, you can just imagine yourself as a road on a map that other roads connect to. The road isn’t responsible for what people are carrying on it, or what their destination might be. That would be an unreasonable expectation to place on any road. In fact, the router doesn’t have any idea of what the exact destination is, even if it’s the last node in the tunnel - simply because during the encryption/decryption process it only knows of the next address to hit!

          For example, say an i2p router hosts a git server. It could be the destination for packets, where clients are using it for version control, or it could act as a node in somebody’s tunnels to connect with other servers/clients. From the network view, I do not believe you can tell, and that is pretty neat.

          In the effort of being transparent and educating you, I do believe an outstanding problem is stream isolation. You should be able to do “soft resets” that reset your identity, although I forget the exact technical i2p term for this. This concern is for clients, not just leaving a router up. So if you intend on using that router to access the network yourself, it would be a good idea to do that soft or hard reset occasionally depending on your concerns. You can do it as often or never at all.

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      It’s a good thing there are no scammers that could try stealing IDs pretending to verify you 😌

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    I think the US will be fine as long as we don’t repeatedly elect some kind of cabal of pedophile authoritarians.

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    The US is already well down the path with masked men kidnapping people on the street, holding them without any contact, defunding all sorts of media and billionaires suppressing all sorts off stuff in their media outlets.

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    Britain has never had free speech in the same way as the US, nor even of the press. Only in the last few decades, they’ve only had what’s required by the ECHR.

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    Lol its been decades since the UK had free speech. I haven’t forgotten the Nazis pug.

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      I lived for over a decade in Britain until about 5 years ago and by the time I left I truly believed the UK was the most likely country in Europe to turn Fascist within a decade.

      So far, they’re well on schedule and there isn’t a month without some news about it further confirming how wise my decision to leave after the Brexit vote was.