NoneOfUrBusiness

Look up “Tel Aviv University peace index”. It’s a survey done every three months by Tel Aviv University measuring attitudes in Israel towards peace, and since October 7th they’ve had questions about the war. Prepare to lose some faith in humanity, however.

There certainly are Israelis who want to listen.

They are, however, a very small minority. Most Israelis don’t want peace with Palestinians at all.

Oh come on not this “oh the Democrats lost because they’re too woke” nonsense again.

This is why I maintain that Trump’s distancing of Europe is the biggest trust busting operation in US history. Down with the Empire.

Yes, you could blame us for standing by and watching them do it and sometimes even helping, but that’s what you do when your (back then) friend asks you for help.

If you help your friend kill millions of people and keep a region where hundreds of millions live because “a friend asked you for help” then guess what? You fucking deserve the consequences.

i also continue to wonder who will be their next target for genocide.

Lebanese and Syrians, probably.

He was arrested in the same way ICE arrested Mahmoud Khalil.

First off that quote is talking about objects, not people. These rules are more stringent for people because they’re people.

The Knesset also contains people opposed to the war. I don’t see how such an attack would bring a military advantage.

The Hamas political office also might.

Killing Hamas civilian leaders in charge of internal security, meaning they also hunt Israeli spies, would bring an obvious military advantage.

Knesset is also in charge of internal security through the ministers they appoint. That aside it would help cause domestic chaos, which would be a definite military advantage.

Don’t get me wrong. Israel certainly commits war crimes, I’m not sure this was one.

Don’t get me wrong it’s a war crime either way because it’s an attack on a wounded person on a hospital (it would be unequivocally a war crime for Hamas to kill, say, Ben Gvir if he was being treatrd in a hospital); we’re talking about whether killing that person was in and of its own a war crime.

That’s, frankly, copium. Give them a few years and they’ll be even stronger than they are now as liberals all over screw up.

They’re still civilians. Only enemy combatants can be killled under international law. Otherwise I assume that you’d be okay if Hamas planned a suicide bombing inside the Knesset? And also, even if he was a legal target, he enjoys the same protection as other wounded do if he’s being treated at a hospital.

The thing that pisses me off about westerners is how most of them seem to think international law ever mattered outside the imperial core/first world. I mean come the fuck on.

You can look it up, but short of it is that the Gaza Health Ministry’s casualty numbers are very accurate and have been used by pretty much everyone since 2007, including Israel. Whenever the UN tries to count independently their numbers match up with Ministry numbers. If anything the Ministry’s numbers are an undercount because they’re only people who have been confirmed as directly killed by the IDF by a doctor in a hospital. People who simply weren’t counted for whatever reason (usually because Israel destroyed all hospitals in the area), as well as people who starve or die to disease, are not included. This is, by the way, why estimations of the true casualty number by are always more than the official number and never less.

There are no institutions in Gaza run against the will of Hamas.

It seems the will of Hamas is to have rock-solid casualty numbers that even the most rabidly Zionist can’t criticize, because if there was even a small overestimation (let alone fabrication) anywhere Israel would use that to discredit the casualty numbers and Zionists in the West will lap it up. I mean they tried anyway, but because the methodology leaves no room for criticism they got shut down pretty quickly.

Hamas’s al-Aqsa TV said Barhoum was being treated at the hospital for wounds sustained in a previous attack.

Still a war crime, Israel.

Yes but not enough I think. Of course the organizing themselves part is important too, but more than that a rally and a protest are fundamentally different. In a rally you’re there to listen to someone speak, not do anything yourself. I doubt 34000 would attend if Bernie or AOC were there leading a protest. Focusing only on organization ability ignores the vast different in willingness to act.

21,000 in Paris is very similar to 34,000 in Denver.

The 34000 in Denver showed up for a rally, not a protest. Completely different things.

Come the fuck on are we back to the “Hamas-run” nonsense again? Eat shit BBC.

Notice the past tense. The hospital was located; it doesn’t exist anymore. Fuck this genocide and fuck Israel.

K.

Nazis? Yes. New? No. The Nakba happened only 3 years after the end of the Holocaust.

“this one was at least willing to pretend to listen and this other guy will just deport you” I’m not skilled enough in debating to get you there

Harris never pretended to listen. In fact she was very explicit about not listening. Also to be clear, I’m not saying there’s no difference between being able to protest and not being able to protest the genocide. However, that difference only matters for people in America; for people in Palestine it doesn’t fucking matter because nothing was going to come out of these protests anyway.