Well, why should Agent Krasnov put tariffs on the hand that feeds him, good old Vlad? 🤷🏼♂️
So US imposed tariff on penguins, but 0 on Russia!
Kompromat
Guys I think there’s some evidence that this is, shall we say, Russia friendly (such as the astronomical tariff rate on Moldova of all places), but Russia isn’t included because it’s a “Column 2” country alongside Belarus, Cuba, and North Korea, and therefore all subject to the stiff tariffs we already impose on the worst of the worst. Please let’s not share things like this which just make us look gullable to the morons on the right supporting this buffoon. It’s not a good look.
Do you have a source for this? I checked https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ypxnnyg7jo but cannot find this.
Edit: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/17517599 says that some countries are not included in tariffs because they are sanctioned instead.
I miss Gilbert
I’m sad now.
Krasnov strikes again! Until there is evidence to counter this theory, it satisfies Occam’s Razor.
Should tell you everything you need to know.
Do people not realize there is no US Russia trade so tariffs would be moot.
no US Russia trade
U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Russia in 2024 were $526.1 million, down 12.3 percent ($73.5 million) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, down 34.2 percent ($1.6 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Russia was $2.5 billion in 2024, a 37.5 percent decrease ($1.5 billion) over 2023.
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia
But what’s a few billion between friends?
No US Russia trade YET.
I wonder why…
That picture is one of the funniest I’ve ever seen. Absolutely a classic.
Here’s a treat, don’t consume them all at once: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5961853/Trump-ruthlessly-mocked-social-media-disgraceful-performance-Putin.html
I was noticing this as well. The place that should have the highest tarrifs.
You can view this one of two ways, possibly both:
- Krasnov
- Trump apparently was doing these tariffs based on trade deficits (Which is stupid on its own, if your dentist doesn’t buy the widgets you sell, that’s not a tariff.), if Russia wasn’t running one, then there you go.
To rebuke 2 I present the following- https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia
U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Russia in 2024 were $526.1 million, down 12.3 percent ($73.5 million) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, down 34.2 percent ($1.6 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Russia was $2.5 billion in 2024, a 37.5 percent decrease ($1.5 billion) over 2023.
Based on that math, with the CNN article I linked for the formula (the country’s trade deficit divided by its exports to the United States times 1/2) we get - (2,500,000,000 / 3,000,000,000) * 1/2 = 0.416666…
So Russia should have a 42% tariff based on their purported 83% tariff on us.
And that’s how you end up in Guantanamo.
For context, Cuba, North Korea, and Belarus are also not tariffed because they are sanctioned instead.
I wondered the same thing. Why would you add tariffs if it’s illegal to even trade with them?
One wouldn’t, which makes all the Krasnov comments in this situation entertaining.
Uh? Of course he isn’t. Why would Putin tell him to put tariffs on himself? That makes no sense.
The US has been sanctioning Russia for the better part of the last decade. We aren’t tariffing them because we aren’t trading with them.
We also aren’t tariffing Venezuela, Cuba, or North Korea, for the same reasons.
But McDonald island is ripping the USA off!!!
But tarrif on seals in the Antarctica region? Doesn’t seem like logic is driving any of this.
Maybe, but apparently we’re tariffing multiple uninhabited islands. It would seem that active trade is not a perquisite for tariffs these days. can’t be having people move out there and not getting tariffed in the future.
I hope he puts tariffs on Mars next. Maybe after he falls out with musk.
They are eating the dogs and now they are tariffing the penguins.
Surely American trades some products? Where does Russian vodka come from?
idaho i think
I was under the impression that we (in Canada) get our vodka mostly from Finland, but it’s been a while since I worked as an alcohol purveyor… I’m ashamed of the things I did during those years, but I’m in recovery now, thank you for your concern
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1306859/us-imports-by-commodity-from-russia/
It does look like we import about $3B/year. Mostly fertilizers, which make up 1/3 of total imports, and some raw metals and a bit of heavy machinery. But that’s minuscule beside our trade balances with the top of his tariff list - China, the EU, Vietnam, Taiwan, Japan, and India. We do $20B/year with tiny little South Korea, as a point of comparison. We bring in $6B/year from South Africa.
To my knowledge, we don’t import Russian vodka in any significant quantity. Anything “Russian” branded is typically imported from one of the neighboring states - Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Romania. Red Army Vodka, for instance, is from a Polish company.
He slapped a 50% tarrif on Lesotho, so it’s clearly not about size or impact.
And the UK got a 10% tariff applied even though the US doesn’t have a goods trade deficit with them.
Some people are saying that this is cause Trump likes us.
it’s funny that this is being downvoted. lemmy is basically reddit. rooting for the good guys, but also dogshit stupid
Systems that have voting mechanisms result in hive minds. It’s an inevitable result.
1st someone is much more likely to vote something up or down depending on how positive / negative it is. So it snowballs sort of like compounding interest
2nd the simplest most common denominator takes bubble to the top. Precisely because more people can understand and therefore vote.
It’s why you’ll always see some screenshot of Twitter much higher than a long in depth article. Even though the article has infinitely more value.
Downvoted because it’s wrong : We aren’t tariffing them because we aren’t trading with them.
So are some inhabited islands which are hit by tariffs. Maybe the dogshit stupid is the one not seeing the ties between trump and putin.
Damn you sound very smart, please tell me more
Un-fucking-real.
This presidency will be such a shit stain on the world. The world will never trust the U.S. in the same way it did before.
Over a century of trust and partnerships destroyed in less than 100 days.
Well. The bridge took some damage in the previous Trump admin as well.
I think far too many people forgot those times.
Or never knew them to begin with
As well as it should not trust the U.S. the same again. While i absolutely despise the orange turd he has shown what has been true before: The west has been too reliant on the U.S. ,which both sides enjoyed while it lastet, as the U.S. called the shots, the rest of the west followed and we all benefitted (often on the backs of the global south ofc). No more. Maybe some good will come out of it (strong hopium, i know)
not trust. coercion.
and i’m so glad it seems to be ending.
Trump is definitely a Russian asset.
And Putin isn’t a U.S. asset? While both countries are geopolitical adversaries, their military and strategic moves have ironically helped sustain each other’s defense industries; just not in a cooperative way.
His Parents were Soviet assets and he was adopted from Russia, so it checks out.
Im going to need some serious evidence that the sitting US president is not a natural born citizen and therefore is not actually the president.
Let’s see the birth certificate.
Only the long form one will do
The longest.
…every accusation is an admission…
Well, he could just show his birth certificate, right?
They forged it.
I’m honestly not sure how that would apply to infant adoptions. It’s my understanding that if the adoption occurs early enough, the adoptive parents will be listed on the birth certificate. It certainly feels like a child adopted in infancy by citizens should be just as eligible for the presidency as a child naturally born to citizens, but I’d also have a hard time drawing a line age-wise after which that would no longer apply and I do see a reason to bar children adopted at 17 from the presidency. My niece was adopted at three years old and she does remember her biological mother, but she’s absolutely my sister and brother in law’s daughter, in terms of her personality, culture, and values. That’s only a data point of one and I’d like more, but I don’t know how easy that would be to track for other adopted children.
If she has a US birth certificate she would be a citizen I believe. If not any attempt to run for office would be questioned.
Uh, what?
I don’t think it landed well but I think he’s Rubber/Glue-ing the Obama birth certificate thing back to him.
US is the richest country in the world and the one with the largest and most advanced army. To me it sound quite unlikely to believe that the president of USA is controlled by russia (a country that is 10 times less rich).
I’m not sure what the things you say have to do with anything? Trump is an individual who got voted into the presidency largely thanks to social media manipulation, which is known to often originate from Russian bot and troll farms. There’s no reason to believe the USA being rich (which only means a few individuals and corporations are very rich, btw) or having the largest army could have prevented it.
social media manipulation
Biggest social media are all owned by private american corporations in bed with the government. Same as before to me it doesn’t sound much likely that the russian government can successfully manipulate them.
There’s no reason to believe the USA being rich (which only means a few individuals and corporations are very rich, btw) or having the largest army could have prevented it.
Having the largest army doesn’t mean they have more guys running around in a field. USA has the most technological advanced army in the world, they have the biggest mass surveillance network, more military facilities around the world, more satellites in orbit and they top everyone else in cyberwarfare.
Embracing the Ultra-Nationalist Paleocon wing of the Republican Party and stuffing your administration with goldbugs and Silicon Valley anarcho-capitalists?
Why does an American President consuming American Propaganda and regurgitating a uniquely American public policy at the behest of his wealthiest American peers and hooting white-nationalist proles waving American flags get flagged as Russian?
I try to keep a sense of perspective, every president I disagree with seems to be the worst president ever at the time.
I really want to say Bush’s useless Trillion dollar wars are worse than this.
But it’s close and we have 3.5 more years of this.
*3.8
Obama was pretty decent no? He managed to at least speak normally.
As much as I despise Obama for vastly expanding our extrajudicial drone strike policy… All things put into perspective, yeah he was pretty decent.
yeah. rip abdulrahman alawaki though
I was fine with like 80% of Obama and like 60% of Clinton’s actual policies while enjoying the economy that I don’t credit him for. But then W Bush was like a 10% and Trump 1 maybe 15% (Warp Speed, passing the vast majority of Covid stimulus, ironically all the stuff he’s against now) and I’m batting zero so far on Trump 2 but I assume at some point he’ll do something I agree with.
The only possibility of me agreeing with this old fuck is him stepping down as President… But then we would have to deal with a Vance Presidency and I’m not sure that would be better
Obama was pretty decent no?
How Obama Destroyed Black Wealth
Neil Barofsky, the bailout inspector general, later testified that protecting the banks was the actual goal. The administration’s aim was to “foam the runway” for the banks, as Barofsky witnessed Tim Geithner tell Elizabeth Warren. HAMP failed, in other words, because it was not designed to help homeowners.
As a result, in many cases HAMP actively enabled foreclosure. Its re-default rate — the fraction of people who got a modification and later defaulted out of the program — was 22 percent as of 2013. Only about $15 billion of the original $75 billion appropriation was spent by mid-2016.
Out of an initial promised 4 million mortgage modifications — itself a drastic underestimate — by the end of 2016 only 2.7 million had even been started. Out of that number, only 1.7 million made it to permanent modification, and of those, 558,000 eventually washed out of the program.
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Former Wells Fargo employees later testified that the bank deliberately tricked middle-class black families (who they called “mud people”) into subprime “ghetto loans.” Overall, a Center for Responsible Lending study found that from 2004 to 2008, 6.2 percent of white borrowers with a credit score of 660 and up got subprime mortgages, while 19.3 percent of such Latino borrowers and 21.4 percent of black borrowers did.
The effects of the foreclosure disaster are starkly apparent in Survey of Consumer Finances data. To start, the homeownership national rate shows a marked decline over almost the whole Obama presidency, reaching the lowest rate since 1965 (before slightly rebounding).
That’s an absurdly low bar.
I really want to say Bush’s useless Trillion dollar wars are worse than this.
I would say Bush’s bailout of the O&G sector in '01 and the Financial Sector in '08 laid the seeds for worse social and ecological conditions over the subsequent two decades. Similarly, NAFTA and the subsequent midwestern de-industrialization was nightmarish for US industry and Mexican agriculture.
These blunders set us up to need international trade. What’s crazy about Trump’s tariffs is that he’s not addressing the underlying infrastructure problems or the crushing post-Great Recession debt traps. He’s just squeezing at the point of the supply chain in order to punish American industry and labor for adapting to the sabotaged economic landscape of the neoliberal era.
It is the economic equivalent of kicking a guy in the kidneys after he’s already been laid out on the ground.
