I’ll start: printers.
I bought an HP in March 2020 when my job went remote and HP bricked it remotely after only 100 pages because I wouldn’t sign up for their subscription program. Ended up trashing a perfectly good printer.
Luckily my library’s close by and I can print there remotely.
Cars. Basically every new model is always online, connected, and streaming who knows what data. Not to mention the awful UX of touchscreens.
Why should a car be connected to the internet? The infotainment is justified but should be controllable. And this includes EVs. Just because your wheels are moved by electric motors it doesn’t automatically mean the entire car is “tech” and must be connected to everything and anything.
If I had to get a car I would by an old clunker and pay someone to convert it to electric.
Yes I would like a fully electric 1957 Bel-Air please.
Old cars sound like fun, until you experience the safety features (seatbelts and crumble zones optional), missing rear visibility with tiny mirrors and the hassle to find matching spare part replicas.
And you think there is not much electronics or fancy extras in them to break, but the older cars where expected to last for 100.000km and maybe 10 years tops before the rust would eat everything up, so a lot of parts where designed cheaper and would fail sooner than today’s cars that are expected to last at least twice as long.
Sweet spot is Japanese cars from the '90s and '00s. They are more reliable, more fuel efficient, have safety features and spare parts are often still available. Rust remains a topic but not as much as with older cars.
Yeah. Find a Honda or Toyota from the latter half of the 00’s with a reliable service history and they’ll last another 10-20 years if you take them to a decent imports mechanic.
Rust is always a problem in some places hahaha
That sounds sick as fuck. Makes me wonder if that will become a service in the future? Instead of everyone buying new electric cars, just replace the engine* with a bigger battery and electric motor. Any car-ologists able to chime in if this is viable?
Certainly is: there was a group of people doing just that at the University of Calgary(?), but it was years ago and they have almost certainly graduated by now. If others are still doing so, I am not certain.
afaicr the most difficult part was the infotainment system. Installing the motors and stuff was easy, to engineering students at least haha.
I kind of hate infotainment systems anyway. I just want a mounted screen to cast Apple Drive Mode or whatever it’s called. The default GUI they put there is fucking awful. I tried to use the inbuilt GPS once and actually gave up and just went on a spiritual journey instead. Surely it can’t be that complicated just to have essentially a mounted iPad?
Great to hear that cars can be saved though. I was worried I’d have to sell my perfectly good car because I want an electric motor… I was thinking like, the rest of the car is fine it doesn’t need to be trashed at all
Same, they are always useless to me because I just use my phone anyway. All I would need is an audio jack and a usb port for charging. I imagine a simple sort of shelf with a ‘seat belt’ where the screen would be.
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I just make up acronyms, why not?
Iirc is a thing, why not use that instead of making people spend time figuring out what afaicr means? I assume I figured it out, yes, but I’ve never seen that before.
It’s been in fairly wide usage for a long time, and it’s literally only two characters off from an extremely well known acronym that has also basically been around as long as the internet (afaik). IIRC was also just made up by somebody too, not that that’s even what OP was doing.
Don’t worry, I understood what you meant
:)Wait a minute… you’re not OC! (Original Commenter)
I have seen iirc thousands of times, don’t recall ever seeing this one before. Yeah they get made up, yet it’s silly to make a new one up that means almost the exact same thing as an established one.
Convertible in Tropical Turquoise and India Ivory?
Most definitely.
I only saw it in tropical turquoise.
fully electric 1957 Bel-Air
That would be gorgeous.
Ideally you just look for a Honda or Toyota from like 20 years ago, assuming you want gas powered. Look for only like 1-3 owners, regular service history. Those things will last into 600k+ miles if they received regular service and parts are dirt cheap.
If I did that I would just be another selfish, ignorant asshole complicit in the destruction and collapse of the natural systems that allow me to breath and eat. No, it would have to be electric. Even then I wouldn’t really want it because of the tires and the raw materials needed to create it in the first place.
Alright well I’m going to continue surviving. You have fun doing whatever I guess.
An acquaintance from NHTSA says the cars save audio from the interior of the vehicle in a type of black box that can be accessed by investigators after wrecks. They frequently analyze this audio, but it’s SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET.
My recent purchase was a Mazda specifically because the infotainment was not a touchscreen, but instead controlled by a rotating knob joystick.
Nothing quite like the twist of a good knob.
Honestly that seems a bit worse
It’s really quite nice. I was just in a rental car with a touchscreen and hated how hard it was to hit buttons while driving because your finger is bouncing from the road. With the knob you stay leaned back in the seat and rotate the knob and slap it down to activate things. Don’t have to worry about missing the target. The only thing it’s not great for is scrolling a map.
At least it’s a physical interface
How many cars were you buying
Like most people who drive, they probably would be buying a new car every 5-10 years. Is that far fetched? I’ve know several people who spend half their money on cars, buying/trading them every year or so. Most fediverse people would be saavier than that, but still.
Well there was period where I changed cars every 2 years. For a total of 3 cars, and then I didn’t need one any more. Not the most egregious example but I did like changing them. It’s like any other toy, it’s easy to get hooked on upgrades and trying out new models.
Yeah, that’s pretty normal I think. I tend to keep my cars a long time but I’ve still had 4 so far, which may surprise the OC here.
I drive them until the cost of fixing them significantly exceeds the cost of getting a new used car. Accounting for it being a pain in the ass to shop for cars etc.
But yeah every 3-5 years sounds about right for typical middle/upper class families. My parents did pretty well when I was little and I remember them doing 2 or 3 year leases.
I don’t buy cars anymore. I didn’t used to buy them either.
Infotainment ain’t justified, at least not up front. Put all that shit in the back if you gotta have it, but the driver should have as few distractions as possible. A simple radio, climate control, and the instrument panel. That’s it.
Utterly insane that we ever allowed glorified tablets to become standard equipment in dashboards.
Brother laser printers don’t do that. The unfortunate thing is that the word is out, so the prices have skyrocketed. But for me, if I ever need to buy a laundry machine, I’m looking for a decades old, used one. One with a spin cycle and that lets you start and stop it in demand.
laundry machine, I’m looking for a decades old, used one. One with a spin cycle and that lets you start and stop it in demand.
Smart.
Get a Brother washing machine. Got it!
Good idea on the washer. My washer and dryer are both 27 years old. Just basic Whirlpool models. I’ve repaired both myself a few times, it’s not hard, and there are directions for every problem online.
New appliances are shit, now. I dread having to replace my fridge. It’s about 25 years old and still works perfectly, but nothing lasts forever.
I’ll definitely be looking at old used in appliances before buying new from now on. Same for cars.
I know it’s off topic, but just want to jump on here and brag about my microwave that is still operating everyday, despite dating back to about 1982.
Yep, I had a GE from 1984. It was a “Spacemaker”. I stupidly gave it away after 30 years because I decided I wanted a bigger one. That’s when I learned that new appliances suck. I’m on my third microwave since then. I have no doubt the one I gave away is still working.
Ooh, this is very similar to the one I have which is also GE. Mine is larger than this, so maybe the non-spacemaker version. Thanks for posting this.
Found this video that looks exactly like mine, except mine has a digital display and buttons. https://youtu.be/nGyYGiuv-2g?is=rQbmXoax64RvMuhY
I haven’t bought one in probably like 12 years. Are the new ones all greebled up with “smart” shit? Even the store brand models?
Talk about it. My washing machine that was just 2½ years old, luckily within extended warranty period, had worn ballbearings. Those were luckily replaced, but it took repair shop and required paperwork 2+ weeks to even come and pick it up, they did offer replacement machine during the repairs.
That wasn’t the worst part, i could still run the machine as the ball bearings were just starting to wear out.
It came back from the repair shop and 2 bloody weeks later another part failed, a fucking simple sensor and the machine no longer runs at all. I removed the side panel and i can see the sensor, 2 screws and a simple plug. I’m not going to contact the repair shop and insurance for that, it’s going to take them longer to get back to me than it does me to find a supplier and order the part myself.
In the meanwhile I’m forced to wash my clothes by hand.Though that made me realize i need to buy a spare washing machine and keep that in the basement for when main one breaks again.
HP printers don’t do that, either. All sources I could find were random reports from people with zero evidence.
HP has terrible scummy business presences and sucks, but this post is straight up misinformation and everyone is just like “oh yeah that’s true they do that”
Any hardware associated with Facebook.
And software, while we’re at it. Web plugins included. Basically just Facebook.
It could’ve stopped at “Lets people share things with friends and family” but they’ll never be satisfied,
untileven if they have the entire world’s money, attention, and data in their clutches.What they’ve done to VR pisses me off to the core.
There is some open source software that is associated with Facebook, like compression with Zstandard, a very common and useful compression format. Don’t care that it’s from them in that case.
I never understood why people think VR can be a mass market product. It’s literally single user. It cannot be looked at by two people at the same time. Such a silly concept. It’s good for gaming, some work, robotics, remote access, etc. But mass market? iPhone-killer? Price-accessible to all? I don’t get it.
Yeah I definitely think AR has a better opportunity for that… But then unfortunately we know what they do as soon as there’s a camera attached to anything
I sat in an uber the other day and the driver had meta ray ban sunglasses on. It was a very uncomfortable ride.
Honestly, using them as an uber driver might be the singular applicable use case in my eyes. It would be less intrusive than a 360 dash cam which I would want to use to protect myself. Accidents, false claims, etc. There is a lot that can go wrong and a lot of shitty people and a “paper trail” of events is VERY useful in court.
“Less” intrusive? A 360 dash cam will store everything on a memory card. The meta glasses uploads video directly into Zuck’s brain.
False.
The Facebook Portal TV was, and still is, gorgeous. The voice control is dead, the streaming services removed, the Alexa link dead, but as a video conf device that uses your TV really well, it’s a life-changer.
We chat with people on the other Coast weekly, and we get to see people in their living room from ours. We can’t go visit, but we can stay in touch.
We paid like $100 each for 4 of these. I’d’ve paid 5 times that for one with upgradeable assistant access and vanilla open video chat so it’s fb free. They’re all still running but they tether us to Fb since the zoom was ass.
What’s “false” here exactly?
Also at the end you’re like you’re like “but they force us to keep connected to fb” which sounds very disqualifying for many users here…
Maybe that’s the one tech we should try to bring back with FOSS next
What hardware is associated with Facebook? The Oculus?
Latest is the ray ban glasses, but also portal tv, oculus.
Oh yeah, i forgot about the doxx shades
Anything smart or iot, or that requires a subscription to use.
A windows license.
Games consoles. (I would consider a stream deck to be immune from this as it’s just a handheld PC)
Android phones, Apple phones.
Wireless earphones.
A modern car.
Wait, why wireless earphones?
Hazarding a guess, but wireless earbuds means your Bluetooth has to be active, and your Bluetooth radio is something that can be used to track you
Ugh, yes, good point. Bluetooth is not the height of security.
bluetooth got real fucking creepy once you had to start having location enabled to use it.
Also curious about wireless earphones, if it’s an audio quality thing, I can understand that.
Please also reply to me so I can get a notification to see your answer
I’m not OP, but here are the downsides I’m aware of:
- Poor reparability
- BT always active
- Codec support
- Latency
- Some need apps for full control and they can come with ads/tracking
I’ll start: printers.
Boy, do I have good news for you!
Thank you! I’m okay with walking over to the library to print, though.
It’s fun getting to express my socialist sensibilities in that way.
[rant]Same; however, my local library has the shittiiiessssttt system in place for paying. Half the time the cards don’t work and they’re not reloadable so if there’s like 5 cents left you have to print one single page to use it up. I have 4 or 5 cards now with less than ten cents left on them. They say there’s a new system in the works but I think they only have enough money to pay one person to do it because it’s been a really long time.[/rant]
That’s aggravating. It’s paid for by our taxes here in KC. Each user gets an allotment. (I think it’s daily, but not sure.)
For responsible printing that’s wonderful.
At our library I quickly learned that people want to just print entire reams of nonsense, like web pages that were clearly not made for printing and waste entire pages on like one graphic, and then 35 pages of comments because this person didn’t know how to select certain pages or use “print preview”
…So they pay 10¢ a page. Lol
For some reason the open printer uses HP ink cartridges, so I’m sure it’ll be great right up until HP decides to jack up the price and/or discontinue them.
No, they use the generic refillable cartridges as well. They just use that style of cartridge, not a specific brand.
All hp printheads are “refillable”. The problem is that the printhead itself is not designed to last more than a refill.
HP doesn’t sell those standalone, all the generic refillable cartridges compatible with HP are hand picked from e-waste in some third world country, then cleaned, primed and sold as “new”
You can buy generic new versions of the cartridge. They are not washed. They are not reused heads, they have never seen the inside of a printer. I have been using them in my printer for over a decade and have never used a rebuilt cartridge.
EDIT: Sorry for the link, these are the cartridges I use in mine. The manufacturer listed them as new, not rebuilt.
https://i.postimg.cc/MKq4VZSf/IMG-20260712-091512.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/m2BqCZsz/IMG-20260712-091519.jpgDOUBLE EDIT: Thinking about it more, my HP printer is very old so perhaps there’s a mechanic implemented in newer printers and cartridges that I don’t have to defeat, which would make my argument incorrect for that cartridge.
Why the hell would they use hp cartridges?!
Edit
Oh it’s refillable, that’s fine then
No, it’s not. They aren’t built to last regardless of being refillable. They’ll need to be replaced.
They used that generic design, not actual HP cartridges. You don’t have to order a replacement from HP, there are several third party refillable cartridge manufacturers, and 3-D printer designs for the cartridges.
This sounds great! Except nowhere do they say how much one will cost, they’re currently in the “drive demand before campaign launch” phase.
I bet it’s gonna be like five hundred bucks. That’ll suck.
I stopped using a smart watch I used to use all the time because Samsung started requiring location services to be on to use it. Immediately made me drop it and I stopped buying anything Samsung after that. Not only would I never be okay with having that on all the time, it’s fucking insane to start making that a requirement for a device that never required that out of the box.
As a bonus one, I’ll never buy anything Playstation ever again for obvious reasons.
About 12 years ago I bought a Samsung tablet that had an IR blaster function so I could control my TV and audio equipment. It was a primary reason I chose that model. Less than a year after purchase Samsung discontinued their app and remotely disabled the tablet’s IR blaster.
It was less than $5 for a replacement app that could be configured to get it working again, but the fact Samsung thought it was just fine to remotely remove a feature that was one of the primary reasons for my purchase was not something I’ve forgiven.
Since then I’ve bought lots of consumer electronic products but have not (and probably never will) consider another Samsung product.
I never understood why they got rid of that. I always thought it was a cool feature that they could have really leaned into. I had a tablet with it and I never used it much because I don’t watch TV, but it felt like something that could have been super useful to someone who did watch TV a lot (and I also had fun setting it up for my family TV and then casually sitting in the background adjusting the volume, changing the channel, and tweaking other settings and watching the chaos that ensued while I oh so innocently appeared to be oblivious and busy playing games on my tablet)
If I remember right it’s because they outsourced that feature to a third party called peel
It started as a dumb remote (which was everyone wanted) but they had some monetization ideas like full TV schedules and “suggested” (aka: sponsored) content.
The same for Xiaomi. A simple ir remote app in the mi 5, but no, in the next updates they had to bloat it until it imploded and nobody used it anymore so they could say “see? Nobody uses it, we can save the $0.05 ir LED”
The Samsung IR app also was used for their streaming service. They could have easily updated the app to allow it to run without connecting to their servers once they killed the service, but it was easier to tell their customers to pound sand.
What the fuck! That’s egregious, that’s so anti consumer it’s basically malicious
This should be made illegal
What a disgusting practice… as if I needed more reasons to hate Shamsdung ugh I cant wait to ditch my phone
For some reason this user keeps telling people you can put graphene OS on Samsung devices, but that’s not accurate, graphene only runs on pixels
You replied to my comment with this. Are you referring to me? If so you’re mistaken.
Not a mistake, I am pointing out the other user to reply to your comment (saying you can put graphene on Samsung devices) is incorrect, in case you didn’t know.
That sort of crap is why I specifically buy older Samsung hardware like that tablet. I love a Samsung Galaxy S10e for my phone, because I can flash Graphene onto it and not have to deal with their firmware. If that tablet had/has an IR blaster, it’s old enough to do the same thing and rip all that Samsung software off of it, flash it with a FOSS ROM, and enjoy your hardware.
The PS5 is my last Sony device. I’ve even considered selling it because I don’t want to give them any revenue from future digital purchases.
They suck and they’re actively ruining physical media gaming.
Look into asteroid os or look for gadgetbride support
@Guitar That sucks. I use a PineTime. It has few features, but the battery life is pretty good.
phones. I just fucken hate em. Until I can get my hands on a graphineOS pixel I will just feel like I have a spy device in my pocket. So now I just have a 6 year old one that is mostly offline playing local music and watching/listening to videos from grayjay. Once this device is dead I will have to look at getting a new one and im really not looking forward to it. I never use calling and i only use txt to receive spam and 2fa spam. Kinda want something like the mechaComet instead of a phone.
Grab an older phone that you can still root and flash, like a galaxy s10e. They work just fine.
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GrapheneLineage Samsung Galaxy S10eGraphene doesn’t run on that phone. I don’t know what’s weirder, that you’re lying about it or that no one has called you for it.
I forgot what ROM I used back in 2020 when I flashed the first one.
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Boo hoo. I was only 90% correct. Go cry about it elsewhere.
0% correct. You spread misinformation, you can at least, cop to it.
Wrong. Making a mistake is not spreading misinformation, especially since it was fixed down thread by others. I pointed people in the correct direction to figure out a solution that can work for them.
You are just a doomer that tries to start fights. I never see you try to help, all you do is criticize any niggling point that you think you can make. Piss off, grow up, and be better.
I got a galaxy s10. I can root it I think. Can I put graphine on it?
No. GrapheneOS currently only works on Pixels 7 and up.
Next year we might be able to buy a Motorola with GOS on it. Afaik, that particular Moto doesn’t exist yet so we don’t know what the specs will be or what the privacy/security compromises will be.
I think this is the only way I’d go back to Android. Google is hostile spyware at this point. I’m interested in GrapheneOS.
No. But you can put LineageOS on it. Someone made a rom for it a few years back, though I don’t know if it still receives updates
No, I forgot which rom I used. You can put Odin or Lineage on it though
https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices
Literally on their page
It literally is not on their page. GrapheneOS only supports Google Pixel phones right now
There’s a LineageOS rom that works for Samsung Galaxy S10e’s, and that’s all I know of
Printers are a loss leader for selling ink cartridges. I have done my recent printing at Walgreens. It’s about 25 cents per page and I don’t need it very often.
Video games. I stopped buying games because they started requiring a monthly subscription to play.
Yea lately I’ve been playing a bunch of Quake and Doom mods/wads/paks. There are probably tens of thousands of hours worth of free content available for both of these games. Kinda makes it hard to justify buying a new game when I could go download some masterpiece Quake campaign for free.
Printers are a loss leader for selling ink cartridges.
Not quite — a loss leader is also sold at loss, so similar pricing concept, but that’s to get you in the store, where (statistically) people will buy more.
What (many) inkjet printers do is the razor-and-blades model.
The razor-and-blades business model[1] is a business model in which one article is sold at a low price or even given away in order to increase sales of a complementary good, such as consumable supplies. It is different from loss leader marketing and product sample marketing, which do not depend on complementary products or services. Common examples of the razor-and-blades model include inkjet printers whose ink cartridges are significantly marked up in price, coffee machines that use single-use coffee pods, electric toothbrushes, and video game consoles, which require additional purchases of accessories and software not included in the original package.[1]
Laser printers tend to be less prone to this. You can also get inkjet printers that aren’t using locked-down cartridges, will take tanks of ink and don’t try to keep out competing ink vendors — but keep in mind that while the ink will cost less, the base printer will also cost more than the razor-and-blades model printers. Canon’s “MegaTank” line is one such example.
Monthly subscription? You mean like PS+ or something?
Yes, also World of Warcraft, anything like that with a subscription. PS+/Xbox Game Pass was the death blow for console gaming for me. I want to buy the game, play the game. Not be paying each month.
Yeah, MMOs are a special case. Realistically WoW or XIV are a better deal than most games. I’m probably in the tens of thousands of hours in WoW since 2004. Pretty crazy value for money.
I agree paying for online in consoles is dumb but that’s always been their strategy - cheaper and easier to get into than computers and they’ll nickel and dime you since you don’t know any better.
Micro$oft. Everything from them. Windows, Office, etc.
Only yesterday I bought a piece of hardware, an old surface tablet, and immediately installed Linux on it to make it usable and safe.
Windows is fine. But it’s a lot harder to justify when “for brainless morons like me!” distros like Bazzite are so readily available and robust and SteamOS is right there too.
But like. It’s fine. You can turn most of the annoying stupid shit like copilot off.
Robot vacuums, I’ve always hated how they were all cloud-connected, but now they have cameras too.
Yeah I know about Valetudo.
Good news, there’s an open source vacuum project called Oomwoo, which allows you to build one yourself with off the shelf parts and a 3D printer
https://makerspet.com/blog/building-an-open-source-robot-vacuum-meet-oomwoo/
Have you seen any mowers that do that? Our back yard is mostly dead, but having it go out once a week would be so cool. I’m a little intimidated by the thought of putting this together, but also want to do it.
Edit: Looks like the vacuum is sold out.
A quick search for open source robot mowers pointed me to this: https://openmower.de/
As for Oomwoo, they’re still working on assembly instructions, so I wouldn’t immediately jump in unless you’re fine with a lot of tinkering. Also, it looks like right now they’re only considering parts kits, not fully assembled bots, and that seems to be a future add.
I personally still think it’s cool and will be keeping an eye on it
You don’t have to get one with cameras though. I send my floorplan to china. But its worth it.
The ones without cameras are fewer and fewer, especially since using cameras is cheaper than lidar
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Lol no. The first roomba just bumped around until it ran out of power, and hopefully it’d have covered the whole floor. After that came the Lidar robots, which mapped rooms and actually thought about where they went. No cameras there.
Car.
Any car made after 2020…
Android phones. I mean, Google has been an advertising company the entire time (2008 to now) that Android has existed, but the enshittification has gotten worse and worse. I still like Android, though. I’m an Apple guy, but I haven’t forgotten wiping Android phones and flashing them with custom firmware, and getting the “AOSP-like” CyanogenMod, or the bone-stock “Google Play Edition” Android on an Android phone meant to slam 5 ads in your face every second. It was always a losing battle, but it was fun.
I still want a newer Android phone. I have a Galaxy S10. It’s still a good phone, but it should be the next phone I replace, before replacing my iPhone 16 Pro Max (which should last another 7-9 years).
As for printers, HP is always a losing bet. They suck. Their lasers aren’t bad at work, but they’re not great either. It’s always something with HP. I’ve heard Brother lasers are cheap enough and rock solid. I don’t really need a printer though. If I did, I’d get that one Brother laserjet everyone’s talking about. Just web search “that one brother printer” and look for the review that just says “stop worrying about printers and get that one brother printer.” Follow their link to Amazon to get the part number, and shop around.
Dude I hope my 16 Pro Max lasts that long. I only got it after breaking my 13 Pro Max. I’d never cracked screen in my 15 years of smartphone ownership. That blue variant was gorgeous and it would have lasted another 3 years easily.
I’m sure you and I were on the same XDA forums back in the day. I still have my old LG G3 with Lineage OS on it. I’ll always miss that era of Android. Wacky new features all the time on ROM, only for Google to integrate them in the main OS down the line.
We’d have been on the same XDA forums if we had the same device. Otherwise we may not have met. I never owned an LG phone, though I was considering the LG G5. I also liked the one with the second screen, the grandfather of every “notched” phone (its second screen was “attached” to the main screen and to the right of the camera). V something? LG had some good ideas.
I had a Galaxy S3, and an HTC One M8. I do not recall what I went by on XDA. I use a new name every year or two. It’s entirely possible we crossed paths one way or another. I’ve been online a long time.
I cracked my 16PM screen the other day. Fortunately it was just the screen protector. I love how spoiled we are now. Wet wipe, dry wipe, dust sticker. Then this plastic applicator that holds the screen protector by these pins perfectly centred on the phone screen, and you pull this tab while pressing down and it applies perfectly every time. My old screen protector was up there almost 2 years, since I bought the 16PM in November '24. This is the second one, I have one more in the box.
I’ve cracked a few screen protectors but never screens.
Where are you seeing ads in Android? I have a pixel and I’ve never had ads shoved in my face. Well, not by Google. The producers or providers of apps, sure, but that’s not on Google is it?
They started adding ads all over that Google news feed when you swipe right from your homescreen last year, the one that’s built into the Pixel launcher.
Ohhh. I’ve never, ever used that except when I accidentally fatfinger my way to it. I forget it exists.
Dating app subscription
TVs
We don’t connect our LG “smart” TV to the internet because “smart” just means advert box. It’s been a much more pleasant experience just using our consoles to control the TV.
You’re TV is smart enough to connect to the internet anyway… It will use your neighbor’s ring doorbell, nest, or other IOT device serving Weave, Amazon Sidewalk or other corporate IOT networks to upload its telemetry anyway.
