Get our asses
yes please. iran: please strike targets on american soil, too. the US needs to get its teeth kicked in and doing it on “bases” is just stupid.
The problem is that might galvanize the population (of the US) and increase support for the war.
That wouldn’t affect the war just like lack of support for it didn’t, population of US has no say on consequences of the wars their government wages, worrying about their support when it has no effect is meaningless
Let’s hope they level the Pentagon to the ground instead of a primary girls only school
If Iran leveled the pentagon and nothing else I think the average american would support Iran more.
In the US war on Vietnam, the anti war stance of the US population of draft age had a significant effect.
I … Don’t believe you are correct here. The US has the most destructive military (non-nuclear) on the planet. The country simply does not have the appetite to actually commit blood, sweat, and money to this war. If they start striking the US, the US people will see it as an existential threat and be far more willing to dedicate as many resources as nessesary to eliminating the threat regardless of the fact that the US started it. That would be bad for everyone, but especially Iran.
It is far better to have the US population largely split in their support for the war effort.
fair and true point. :/
Consult a map, or a globe.
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Missiles and drones can only fly so far before they run out of fuel. The US is half-way across the world from Iran.
yes, so i expect iran to get good. so ?
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An excavation is when you excavate something, like an archaeological site. The word you’re looking for is excursion.
does that mean someone will finally level israel?
trump really painted himself into a corner here. He’s probably starting to think it would’ve been better to just release all of the trump/epstein files. What a huge colossal waste for everybody on the entire planet.
Wait until he does that to distract from the draft for ww3
Looks like Iran need to keep teaching the burger reich that it can’t fuck around without consequences.
visit https://presstv.com/ for a taste of freedom of speech … US is so free guys
what the heck they made presstv.ir inaccessible as well
There are all these pics of the dead Iranian head of state. Who the fuck cares if that guy’s dead? Fuck him. Hope he rots.
this is the alternate URL or presstv on twitter or telegram. they also have a television live stream on rumble.
Also Odyssey
I can access it over Tor with Netherlands endpoint
Firefox says there’s somekind of certificate issue
Their certificate was revoked (by their certificate authority, Actalis, part of the Aruba Group) on July 6. Presumably the CA was pressured to revoke it by the Italian and/or US government, and they will get a new certificate from someone else soon.
There is a hexbear thread here about it; afaict there doesn’t appear to yet be any reporting about it. But in the CRL you can see it was revoked July 6:
$ curl -s http://crl15.actalis.it/Repository/tls-subca-rsa-dv-2025/getLastCRL | openssl crl -noout -text |grep -A 4 02295E6BB25717C4652321F4ED9D2B29 Serial Number: 02295E6BB25717C4652321F4ED9D2B29 Revocation Date: Jul 6 13:54:09 2026 GMT CRL entry extensions: X509v3 CRL Reason Code: Privilege WithdrawnThe reason “Privilege Withdrawn” means it was the CA’s decision rather than their own.
Because certificate revocation has never worked very well, many people can still access it (until their browser fetches the certificate revocation list, or checks OCSP, does some newfangled proprietary other thing i don’t understand…).
Iran has issued a firm warning that it will not back down from its management of the Strait of Hormuz and is prepared to fight to maintain control over the strategic waterway, an informed security source told Press TV on Wednesday.
The source revealed that developments over the past 48 hours have solidified Tehran’s resolve, with a new military and strategic doctrine now in place.
According to the source, Iran’s updated strategy dictates that in the event of any fresh attack on Iranian soil or interests, the Islamic Republic will respond with overwhelming force.
The source elaborated on Iran’s new retaliatory framework, stating that following any strike against Iran, two immediate actions will be taken: first, the Strait of Hormuz will be completely closed to all maritime traffic; and second, Iran will strike enemy targets at a ratio of at least two to one, meaning that for every Iranian target hit, at least two enemy targets will be struck in return.
“The memorandum of understanding signed on this matter clearly states that Iran will reopen the Strait in accordance with its own arrangements. Therefore, Iran will not permit the establishment of any new route outside the framework of its own arrangements,” the source said.
The source also addressed recent threats made by US President Donald Trump, delivering a blunt message to Washington.
"Any threat will receive a powerful response. Iran does not distinguish between the United States and its partners in the region,” the source told Press TV.
“Trump will gain nothing from these recent threats, but he will certainly lose both the Strait of Hormuz and the negotiations over a final agreement. The choice is now his."
The warning comes amid rising tensions in the Persian Gulf region, after the US military carried out a fresh round of illegal and unprovoked strikes against Iran’s coastal areas early on Wednesday.
US launched military strikes on a number of coastal bases and non-military stations in Iran’s southern Hormozgan province and Mahshahr, which openly violated the ceasefire.
In response, the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) struck 85 US military targets in Bahrain and Kuwait with missiles and drones in an initial response to the American aggression.
The IRGC said the strikes hit facilities at Port Salman, the US Fifth Fleet’s area in Bahrain, and Ali Al Salem Air Base in Kuwait. It also announced the downing of an MQ-9 drone, saying the aircraft attempted to interfere with the operation before it was shot down.
In a statement earlier on Wednesday, Iran’s Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters said any source of support for the “aggressor US army” will be considered a legitimate target for Iranian armed forces.
“The source of any support for the aggressor US army to violate the sovereignty and territory of Islamic Iran will be a legitimate target for the armed forces,” the top military command center warned.
It said that the only safe route for commercial ships and oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz is the path designated by Iran, and that Tehran will not allow any interference in the management of the Strait.
Iranian parliament speaker and lead negotiator Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf also slammed the US for committing major violations of the Iran-US memorandum of understanding (MoU), stressing that Washington’s “era of bullying and extortion” is over.
“Major MoU violations by the US: [1.] Violating Iranian adjustments in the Strait,
[2.] Reinstating oil sanctions,
[3.] Attacks on southern Iran,
[4.] Continued Zionist aggression on Lebanon,” he said.“The era of bullying and extortion is over. It leads nowhere. We don’t fold.”
Actalis, who are Italian, but probably acting on orders from the USA in this case, has revoked the certificate. (Could also be the site got hacked and Actalis is doing their job correctly, but I subscribe to the censorship theory personally).
You can use wget to download the site, or curl if you just want the text. There’s also presstv.co.uk which works as a mirror.
We have already lost this war three times.
What are we still doing there???
There’s someone who hasn’t lost hard enough yet, and they didn’t consent to any MoUs
Looking for the Epstein list?
Experiencing the death throes of a dying global hegemony
Well, getting into a war which reveals its hard power as being much less than the image most had of it before and which pisses of its allies, all of this eating away its soft power, it is a pretty traditional thing in the collapse stage of empires.
… it is a pretty traditional thing in the collapse stage of empires.
it really goes to show that capitalism hasn’t broken the cycle since it shares the same fatal patterns as the empires that collapsed before it.
Market manipulation and unprecedented levels of historical grift? Oh and sucking Israeli dick, that’s a big one.
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I think we just like the feel of the pain and we relish in the devastation of loss. There’s no other explanation.
Who’s “we”?
America and her government.
If they can, they should bomb the absolute shit out of israel. That’s the only thing that will put a real stop to this.
One missile in Suez would cripple the international economy like never before too
I mean, where’s the lie
America just needs to take the L lmao
If Iran ends up sending more towards the IOF (in addition to USA targets), then I hope they include the “settlements” in West Bank. The open attacks on Palestinians with support of the IOF, should flip all “settlements” as 100% valid targets.
Related to USA targets. Is Iran trying to hit any the aircraft carriers with their hypersonic missiles? I know they are harder to hit since they actively move around and the stationary targets do matter. Just seems like even losing one would fuck things up for the USA projecting power.
If Iran ends up sending more towards the IOF (in addition to USA targets), then I hope they include the “settlements” in West Bank. The open attacks on Palestinians with support of the IOF, should flip all “settlements” as 100% valid targets.
Related to USA targets. Is Iran trying to hit any the aircraft carriers with their hypersonic missiles? I know they are harder to hit since they actively move around and the stationary targets do matter. Just seems like even losing one would fuck things up for the USA projecting power.
Iran doesn’t have a way to find and target a shop like that in real time. It’s a really difficult problem to solve without air superiority or space superiority, neither of which Iran has. So I’m sure they’d love to hit a carrier but they can’t really target one
Figured it was something like that. Only thing that would suck if they did hit one or any of the other ships/subs that are nuclear powered is the nuclear contamination. Which I guess is a kind of unintended deterrent for sinking any of them for any nation that has them. Would want to fuck them up, while trying to avoid the plant in a way that also still allows them to be tugged away I guess. Though it would still get a similar impact as sinking since it removes an asset and cost so much in all logistics.
Unfortunately I think this is it for Iran, they can only do two things now: full scorched earth or capitulate. And it’s likely going to be capitulate.
They can’t tit for tat after today’s attacks. The US went after infrastructure this time. If they close the strait again they’re prepared to go to full war.
I think. What the fuck do I know. But would bet within 48 hours:
- Surrender by the Iranian regime, much better terms than currently negotiated.
- US ground invasion to topple the regime.
- Iran goes all out closing the strait, bombing everything within reach, fully mobilizing military
Edit: I realize now people are reading this as all 3 will happen which is stupid, but doesn’t surprise me.
Looks like number 3 is unfolding
they can only do two things now: full scorched earth or capitulate
Why? Dragging this out only helps Iran. Every day the US oil reserves fall further, and Iran makes more missiles and drones and tunnels, and the Gulf States get angrier with Trump for messing up their economies.
Iran doesn’t even have to do tit-for-tat attacks or stop every single tanker. They just have to hit enough ships that no one wants to risk crossing without their permission, and prevent the US from returning to and repairing its bases. Both of which they have shown themselves capable of doing.
No, lol. The US is on the backfoot and is desperate, they cannot actually stop the IRGC just by killing as many civilians as possible.
why would they capitulate?
The US can flatten their infrastructure at will. They can only withstand so much of that before the calculus they’ve been working under changes.
Iran was benefitting from the war for a large part of it. No longer.
how so? iran can rebuild infrastructure, and also destroy theirs.
the us can’t wrangle back control of the strait which is an important part of fueling the petrodollar. if the rumors are correct, both their oil and missile reserves are dwindling.
pride precedes the fall.
Do you not remember the dozen or so destroyed us military aircraft??
Did I say Iran couldn’t do any damage?
My whole point is the tit for tat can’t go any longer. And I’ve been vindicated (a bit) so far in that my 3rd scenario is starting to play out. Full mobilizing of the IRGC, scatter orders. US strikes are heavier and more frequent.
The strait cannot be fully closed again/ much longer without serious physical shortages starting to appear. Therefore Iran either has to capitulate or go over the top and go for max pain.
Guess we’ll find out if your nostradumbass 48 hours predictions come true or not. See you then!
So it was a “one of these things is bound to happen” list, not a “these are all going to happen” list.
And #3 is absolutely panning out so far. We will see if it keeps up. But curious how you are so confident in your criticism when it’s literally happening…
Or were you like most others thinking I was predicting all three things would happen, which is absolutely stupid because they can’t by definition all happen.
The fact that you considered the option 1 possible make it one of the stupiest comment I ever read here
Number 3 isn’t a prediction if it’s already happening, I thought that that would be obvious. The other 2 points are nonsensical. And my original comment was making fun of your statement that the US can flatten Iran at will.
Remember how NAZI Germany “flattenned” the infrastructure of the Brits, literally mass bombing British cities?
Remember who ultimatelly won?
Historically a foreign enemy bombing civilians generally achieves the very opposite of compliance - it strengthens rather than weakens their resolve.
Good lord, ok sure let’s see who’s right in the end.
Iran can keep the strait closed even if the US goes all out, all flattening Iran would do is ensure the strait stays closed long enough for the oil reserves to run out. The US has to know this. The question is if they’re stupid enough to do it anyway.
We are
I don’t think so. This is all happening because of whatever leverage Israel has on your leadership. Israel refuses to comply with withdrawing form Lebanon.
The usa refuse to use it’s leaverage. Bush senior for example paused a 10 billions aid to israel
George H.W. Bush & his son, curse their names, did not have Polymarket.
Not just that though. Cultist war Hawks got a hard on for leveling Iran for some reason. Lindsay Gramme been saying it for like 20 years. Unless he is also Israeli puppet in which case ignore me.
Iran war hawk
Israeli puppet
It’s the same picture
imagine being this detached from reality y’all
Is this what it looks like when you give ChatGPT to a small child?
I’m not a butterfly
The memefied mind in action.
“I write a thousand comments a month”
I don’t know what kind of mind that is, but I wouldn’t be throwing any shade if I was in your shoes…
If any of my 1000 comments were as terrible as the ones you leave, I’d retire from the internet.
What other “if” scenarios can we imagine?
Here’s an if for ya.
IF anyone was to look at comment histories and compare, you’d see that on the whole my comments are much more highly upvoted.
Now, I don’t give a shit, but you should really think about things before you comment. Because it sure seems like your commenting is more or less a finger up your ass thing more than anything else…
Lmao, thanks for doing the research. I wear the down votes with pride, I’ve seen what the shitty libs on the lemmyverse up vote.
I like that you’re so invested though, keep reading through my comments and maybe you’ll learn something.
- lol
- from what bases???
- why not just keep drawing it out until the effects are felt down the supply chain? they’ve been going tit-for-tat so far
Joke of the century
All three?
Dayam, well I won’t fight you cause I’m no position to claim I know enough…but I’m curious what you think? Just more tit for tat/straits open/straits closed/etc?
I expect return of the full scale war for a short period and then return to negociation because the usa will fail again.,The usa tried everything last time. It did hit infrastructures. The irgc will not surrender that for sure. They still have the control. They still have most of their missiles most of their drones to continue the closure of the straight . Iran can also closure beb el mendeb
