Yes im aware that my search engine choice is not the best option.
Mullvad Browser, SearX or StartPage search, SimpleX or Briar messenger, Fossify Suite(Files, Camera, Gallery, Calendar, Notes, Keyboard, etc), Filen Cloud, Aegis 2FA, SimpleLogin or Addy as mask to email account, FlorisBoard keyboard
Gmail - > tuta mail
Also you use way too much proton. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket
Proton Pass. For privacy, either self host or use offline password managers.
If I’m being very picky and perfectionist, Obsidian.
It’s closed source, and there are open-source alternatives, be it Trilium, Zettlr or whatever strikes your fancy
Perhaps this one:
Proton Mail -> Tuta Mail
Why? I would be careful with Proton Mail b/c it presumably advocates the Swiss surveillance and security law, which allows to keep information for a longer period of time.
BTW, you can add:
GitHub -> Codeberg (or Forgejo)
What is obsidian and signal note to self?
Rn I just add me wife to new chats and keep my notes there. Im sre she loves it.
I dont follow, how does it relate to signal as in the picture?
Dude is just Sendung a signal message to hinself
Apologies, my eyes are old
https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360043272451-Note-to-Self
It’s to replace Google Keep as a note taker.
What’s with all the hoopla about Google nuking devices with GrapheneOS lately?
Arent you using too much proton
Ecosystems which are easy to use are great for users and the reason why Google has a monopoly. If proton is a decent privacy centered alternative then more power to them.
Maps is the hardest thing to replace. I like comaps but it’s hard to find any businesses on it. They should probably start scrapping google maps because there no way to get ahead at this point.
I use Mapy (EU)
Murena Workspace and kDrive instead of Gmail/Gdrive
AlterSend (P2P) instead of DropBox
vgy.me (UK) instead of Google Photos
Search - Mojeek, Startpage, MetaGer
AI - Andisearch
Vivaldi Browser, it’s Calendar, Mail and Mail Client, Feed, Notes
Zen Browser
Mandatory Portmaster on Desktop (Windows/Linux) and InViziblePro (Mobile)
Mapy uses OSM data outside the Czech Republic, and the extra features there compared to FOSS apps are only marginally useful. However, I am in the Czech Republic so I use the year-old 9.55.2 (9550200) Android app (last version before Premium enshittification).
Correct, but there isn’t any good FOSS map out there, all rely on OSM, and Mapy certainly isn’t the worst. Another good free and independent map is HERE. With maps it always depends for what you use it. It’s sad that there isn’t any real alternative to Google Maps and Street View (HERE map at least has a 3D view on street level, but only graphically, not real images). Really private are Maps in paper, which you can buy in Tourist offices (there often free) and Gas Stations, old School
Have you tried Magic Earth Navigation. I tend to switch between Magic Earth and CoMaps but tend to use MAgic Earth more
Its not on fdroid?
It’s unfortunately not truly FOSS, it’s still closed source. But literally every map app with traffic data is so, I just use it to avoid Google… Use Aurora store to get it.
If you’re already moving to Graphene, just use Vanadium as your browser. It ships with GOS and is an excellent privacy choice.
Also, proton mail kinda sucks. I used it for a while but switched to fastmail because an email account with zero interoperability is kinda a lousy used experience.
Edit: same with proton calendar. I like the concept but in practice having a locked away calendar isn’t a great feel.
What do you mean “zero interoperability”?
Isn’t the point of moving from things like GMAIL is because the interoperability is exactly why all your data is fucked?
Its just where philosophical and practical meet the road for me.
Proton is a cool idea because they say they don’t scan anything, and that brought me in; but not being able to use an email client of my choice made my day to day experience less pleasant. If you’re in desperate need of the encryption on their servers it may be a totally reasonable trade off, but it wasn’t for me and I’ve heard many others say basically the same.
Because my main objective was not having my personal emails feed the corporate giants my personal information, rather than a hard requirement of encryption, it makes a lot more sense to use fastmail or a similar service and keep the day to day usability of not being completely locked into the proton ecosystem.
Same thing for my calendar, more important to be able to share events with people not logged into proton and to use the client I actually like.
Side note: much of the sell of proton mail gets tossed out the window when you send an email to anyone not using proton. If you email someone using gmail or apple or whatever that server side encryption from proton doesn’t mean dick anymore.
As others have said, remove all proton stuff that you can. You are just replacing one centralized service with another. Google started out good too and look where we are now. Never put too many eggs in one basket.
They have almost twice as many google apps though. Why didn’t you mention those?
There are arrows between the icons. The google ones are what they are switching away from.
My answer to this is to use a custom domain with an email aliasing service.
I’ve gone through about half of the 400 accounts in my password manager and moved them over. I’ll migrate the rest over the next week or so.
So, I’m switching from Gmail to Proton for now, but if Proton starts to get worse or Tuta catches up on functionality or there’s a better provider that emerges or I decide to try to self-host, it’s one easy change at the alias provider to redirect all of my mail to a new email provider.
You should try migadu. Thats the most no-bs provider with custom Domains I could find
Just recently discovered Migadu and it’s all I ever wanted!
What does Migadu do? I’m not understanding what “consolidation” means in this context. ELI5?
Thanks. Since I’m just starting my privacy journey, I’m sticking with the mainstream options for now, but using an aliasing service will make it easy easy for me to switch in the future. I’ll check it Migadu and I appreciate the suggestion.
Obsidian is closed source or not fully open source iirc. Try Notesnook if you need sync.
Logseq is a good alternative to Obsidian
I love Logseq and I’ve been using it for many years. But TBH it’s not an alternative to Obsidian. At all. It’s a differrent app with a differrent approach.
My boss uses Obsidian, and me and a colleague use Lagseq. They seem to do the same job for our needs. I’m curious to know what features of Obsidian is Logseq lacking for your usecase?
Apparently Emacs is on F-Droid so you could use org-mode as well, although IDK how well it works
Orgzly is what you use for org-mode on Android. Haven’t seen anything beat it.
Sweet, I’ll try it out
My preference was Joplin synced through self hosted Nextcloud
Yeah or standard notes if they like the proton products
Standard Notes was written by a different company (largely just one developer) and is not like other proton products.
Proton simply bought it so they didn’t have to write their own.
Yeah good call out. I just meant that there are many people that don’t trust/dislike proton. OP though seems cool with proton so then they might be cool with standard notes.
I prefer Comaps over OSMand.
OSMAnd has a lot more features that I personally use
different purpose in my opinion
How so? Isn’t it a fork after a dispute about direction?
You’re thinking of Organic Maps
Comaps is not a fork of OSMAnd… OSMAnd is a high powered offline maps and trip planning toolkit with many layer options, custom layers, multiple map views, and a range of plugins.
Comaps is… Well an offline compatible Google mapsish clone. It doesnt have anywhere near the capability of OSMAnd. Its more “general user” focused.
The difference is a navigation app vs a maps app
As others have pointed out, having so many Proton apps might be an issue. However, that line of thought only works if you’re really concerned about having a single point of failure. Most people value convenience much more than that.
The way I see it, this setup is somewhat noob-friendly, but relying heavily on Proton makes it a lot more convenient for many people. Using a greater variety of providers would make sense, but you can’t expect everyone to be ready for a hassle like that. People seem to expect you to be a hard-core privacy warrior who is willing to make significant sacrifices for philosophical reasons.
Most people aren’t like that. Just switching to DDG is hard enough for them, but at least it’s a step in the right direction.
If you take only 1/10th of this diagram, you get the simplified newbie version. Take all of it, and it’s for a person who is clearly interested in security and privacy. Modify a few things here and there, and you get a version for a serious security enthusiast. Different versions for different audiences.
Using Proton Mail, Calendar and Docs is a lot, lot better than using the Google suite. We shouldnt put people off changing, as you said the convenience is important and often forgotton as the major reason people stick with Google.
Just use tutamail - better track record and hosted in Germany
That would have been my recommendation as well. It also diversifies the setup a bit.
However, I can also appreciate Proton as a convenient gateway drug that leads people away from Google.
What track record? They are both the same.
Proton is just more user-friendly.
tuta hasnt sponsored a single far right influencer to my knowledge
Incoming Proton hate. This place has taken to that campaign exceptionally well.
