What if religion was separated from government, and all people were treated equally under secular law, as is the case in every advanced country where even non-cis-males are allowed to read freely and have a complex pluralistic civilization ?
IOW what if all the Sky Daddy people fucked off with their cosplay and let the adults manage things?
It’s a bit more complicated than that. People like him have traditionally played off of religion heavily while not being firm believers themselves. I think it stands to reason that the religion is a means to an end, which in Israel’s case amplifies their main defense, which is, “If you don’t like our ethnostate the you don’t like Jews.” Obviously ridiculous to most leftists, but liberals are more amenable to identity politics.
Is canada not secular? Why did Carney said he want a zionist palestine, always talk about israel right to defend itself, lying about stopping selling weapons to it and pretending to want a two state solution?
Carney, like most Canadians wants peace. Not the eradication of Palestinians, nor the eradication of Israelis. Canada can support a two party solution, and still support those ‘parties’ - that’s actually very consistent.
You are either too naive or just pretending like Carney . He is lying about stopping selling weapons, he did nothing against the idf soldiers talking in a Canadian university and the selling of occupied land in Synagogues
No. Not disengagement; quite the opposite. De-radicalization and modernization.
The way Germany stopped worshiping Hitler and the mythical Great Germanic Past. The way Japan stopped worshiping Hirohito and the mythical Great Japanese Past.
Both were quasi religious states, depending on a population steeped in a culture of credulity coupled with unchallengeable authority.
Related but not identical: North Korea, Iran, Putin’s Russia, MAGA
Germany and Japan were subject to complete and total American led nation building. Douglas MacArthur basically wrote the Japanese constitution and modeled it on America.
Who do you plan to appoint as leader of this new project of yours?
I can think of another one.
What if religion was separated from government, and all people were treated equally under secular law, as is the case in every advanced country where even non-cis-males are allowed to read freely and have a complex pluralistic civilization ?
IOW what if all the Sky Daddy people fucked off with their cosplay and let the adults manage things?
Uh… The Nakba was committed by secular atheists. Stop trying to pin this on religion.
Ok great. So now Israel is just committing a secular genocide without the veneer of religion. I don’t see that that’s better.
What an uninformed, specious thing to say. I almost suspect trolling
Are you seriously suggesting Bibi’s Likud, or its partners Shas and Mafdal are … secular ?!?
No, but Ben Gurion absolutely was.
It’s a bit more complicated than that. People like him have traditionally played off of religion heavily while not being firm believers themselves. I think it stands to reason that the religion is a means to an end, which in Israel’s case amplifies their main defense, which is, “If you don’t like our ethnostate the you don’t like Jews.” Obviously ridiculous to most leftists, but liberals are more amenable to identity politics.
Yes that’s an integral part of “religion”
Is canada not secular? Why did Carney said he want a zionist palestine, always talk about israel right to defend itself, lying about stopping selling weapons to it and pretending to want a two state solution?
Carney, like most Canadians wants peace. Not the eradication of Palestinians, nor the eradication of Israelis. Canada can support a two party solution, and still support those ‘parties’ - that’s actually very consistent.
You are either too naive or just pretending like Carney . He is lying about stopping selling weapons, he did nothing against the idf soldiers talking in a Canadian university and the selling of occupied land in Synagogues
Again little to do with religion its colonialism dummy.
WhenxSecular countries are supporting the terrorist state of Israel you know that it is not about religion
US support if Israel is arguably very much driven by religion as much as geopolitics
It’s definitely the excuse they use to justify it.
It’s just surprising how many people fall for it, including those critical of it.
It’s typical imperialism and western neocolonial mentality
know what a state without religion looks like? palestine.
Just put the whole region under a quarantine and check back in 100 years whether they have become civilized?
No. Not disengagement; quite the opposite. De-radicalization and modernization.
The way Germany stopped worshiping Hitler and the mythical Great Germanic Past. The way Japan stopped worshiping Hirohito and the mythical Great Japanese Past.
Both were quasi religious states, depending on a population steeped in a culture of credulity coupled with unchallengeable authority.
Related but not identical: North Korea, Iran, Putin’s Russia, MAGA
Germany and Japan were subject to complete and total American led nation building. Douglas MacArthur basically wrote the Japanese constitution and modeled it on America.
Who do you plan to appoint as leader of this new project of yours?
Yeah that’s the real serious problem here
There is no Force Majure. America that was, is no more.
Learn to swim?