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    Adaptive cruise control is good enough for most people and has been a proven technology for 20+ years. FSD is just downright dangerous.

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      I like my car’s version that’s just adaptive cruise control combined with using lidar maps of major roads to do lane-centering. I can go on a road trip and not touch the gas, break, or steering wheel for hours, but I have to drive it myself through residential neighborhoods.

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          Cadillac CT5

          They’ll even pass slow cars then get back over.

          And none of that “touch the steering wheel every few min” stuff, but it uses infrared pupil trackers to make sure you’re mostly looking at the road and not sleeping.

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    He’s been real quiet lately. No more talks of release the list or the America Party. Did his K plug go on vacation?

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      Now trump is black bagging US citizens in broad daylight, and Musk is an immigrant who fully admitted that he originally entered the country illegally. The danger must have creeped its way through his ketamine addled brain.

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        I can promise you he doesn’t even think about that.

        He’s busy with his little Internet cult right now and I’m assuming some other malicious bullshit to fuck us with.

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        Musk also has a private army of security contractors (and someone like him probably has mercenaries off killing people in other countries too)

        he’s far too much trouble to go after, if you’re DHS, regardless if you’re Trump DHS or Democrat DHS. someone like that is ungovernable.

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        He didnt buy ihs gold plated visa?

        Maybe while he was doing the DOGE thing he changed his status.

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    Need jammers to confuse and break Teslas. They’re weapons designed to break laws and protect occupants at the expense of bystanders. Can’t be mad if a bystander redirects your Tesla into a ditch.

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      protect occupants

      It doesn’t even do that. You crash a tesla and start a fire, it will glady lock you in the car.

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      as long as it doesn’t break the other ones. not all of the safety features we’ve developed in the last quarter century are bullshit

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        Eh I have a hard time believing anything made or done in the last 20ish years was done for anything other than money.

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        Hmm. I think lane-assist probably makes people worse at driving. Anything that lets people pay less attention on the road does, it trains drivers to be less alert. Adaptive cruise and automatic braking are probably a net benefit but “car safety” is not trending in the right direction.

  • MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    When a self driving car breaks the law, the CEO should get the demerit points on their own licence, and if they lose their licence, the cars can’t drive anymore.

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      Man, holding the company financially accountable for all traffic violations would be magnificent.

      It’s a shame we’re too stupid/weak to pull it off.

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      Somebody needs to be responsible, otherwise ban self driving until someone figures it out. Impound the vehicle if need be.

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        What? You can’t just demand accountability from AI bros, that would destroy their whole business model.

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      The second one of these cars cause a fatal collision due to wanton disregard of the law on part of the CEO, he should be held criminally liable.

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      That would be funny but better yet, the entire line of cars gets the feature deleted from them and customers are reimbursed the entire value of the car plus interest in exchange for having risked their lives testing an unstable and dangerous vehicle.

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      They shouldn’t even be able to market it as self driving if they don’t insure the self driving mode itself.

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      CEOs like you’re talking about, they dont drive.

      the only time they’ll step behind the wheel of a car is for a pleasure cruise in some multi million dollar supercar on a track, or a closed / private road.

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        So what? Them driving is not relevant to this at all. The idea is that the cars they sell become illegal.

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    you, too, can die at the hands of AI and become forever enshrined as algorithmic data to help improve Tesla’s subscription services sales to the very wealthy and hostile

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      Yep. This is inevitable. Whenever we get to the point where consumers are controlling the aggression of the self driving, which will happen no matter laws are past.

      Ultimately it’s all just code on hardware.

      Tesla is definitely doing their fuck around, still waiting to find out on this one. Eventually that liability will catch up with them. The question is months, years, or decades.

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    which comes with higher speeds and more frequent lane changes

    Go kiss a concrete pillar, ya duds

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    Just because Elon is above the law doesn’t mean you are, even if you’re in a Tesla. Good luck.

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      the cow catcher i put on front? with all those “decorative” bones and limbs in it? why yes it’s purely cosmetic and is not at all indicative of my premeditated intention to FSD through a crowd.

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      Even if you’re just minding your business when a sleeping pilled-out middle manager from Subway corporate plows into your 98 Corolla in their Tesla at 100 mph leaving your family without a father and source of income because a billionaire nazi who’s constantly off his nut on ketamine decided rules are stupid and don’t apply to him and the entire societal structure designed to prevent this from happening has been hollowed out by incompetent bigots who absolutely rate high on the sociopath scale because nazi media has ensnared 51% of the population and now you dead.

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      I’m not sure what this system does, but my non-Tesla car can adjust its intelligent cruise control by speed limit signs it sees, and you can tell it to have a buffer. Mine is set for +5, so if the sign says 45 miles per hour, the car drives itself at 50 mph.

      If it’s something like that, which you set yourself, it’s probably fine. Just know what the police in your area enforce. Where I live you can generally go five over without an issue, ten over on the freeways. Everyone does this, so if you go the speed limit you end up annoying everyone.

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        I’ve driven by a few radar speed indicators in my car, and I’m consistently going 4 km/h less than what my digital speedometer says, regardless of speed. I find it difficult to believe this is an accident. So if I had your vehicle and it behaved like my speedometer does, I would still only be +1 over the limit. Also, I now drive with my speedometer +5 to +9 relative to the speed limit, which keeps me more in line with the traffic around me.

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        This is kinda dumb. So they have to adjust speed limits below safe levels so you don’t get over it?

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        If it didn’t, it would be pretty damn annoying as cars always show higher than actual speed. I’ve had to set our BMW to do +8km/h so that it actually does 120km/h on GPS and not 112.

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          as cars always show higher than actual speed

          Although that is true, your car is quite extreme in that regard. In Germany cars are not allowed to deviate by more than 3kph at speeds below 100, and 3% at speeds above 100. I doubt BMW uses different speedometer for cars sold in foreign countries so I’m pretty sure there is something wrong with yours. Maybe you installed smaller diameter tires than from factory?

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            Hmmh, could be, though both are “from the factory”, the winter/summer tires are slightly different sizes. But the allowed error in the EU overall (or at least in Finland) is 10% +4km/h, so it’s still well withing “spec”.