I’ve been browsing antique jewelry a lot lately and wonder about this. With jewelry specifically I think about hair, coral, pearls.

Then that extends out to animal skins, bones, human relics, etc.

What makes one thing gross but the other okay?

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    19 hours ago

    What we find gross is mostly arbitrary and emotional. It’s loosely based on the perception of filth but most people who find something gross will continue to find that thing gross even if they know it’s clean. If someone feels like snakes are gross, they watch you take a snake and scrub it clean with soap and water (don’t actually do this obviously) and you try to hand them the scrubbed snake, most people would continue to call it gross. Furthermore, if you ask most people why they find something gross, they won’t be able to give you a real answer. (Food seems to be an exception but we mean something entirely different and much more specific when calling food gross unless we are saying that the food is somehow foul or unclean)

    In most cases, when someone calls something gross, they are doing so as a reaction to a feeling it gives them. Whatever they say after that tends to be some form of post-hoc justification to legitimize that feeling.

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      I remember seeing an informal test on this. An actor crafted a free drink in front of participants, then unwrapped a factory-new toilet brush in front of the person. They made a point of cleaning the freshly unwrapped brush in the bar sink, to ensure there wasn’t any factory-gunk on it. Then they used the brand new toilet brush to mix the drink.

      Nobody would touch the drink. Even though they knew it was clean, they couldn’t overcome the instinctual disgust that was caused by seeing it mixed with a toilet brush.

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    20 hours ago

    If I look at an object and I’m reminded that it comes from a dead human or creature i probably wont keep it.

    An old jacket is ok because i just see a cool jacked but a tiger skin rug would always remind me of a dead tiger.

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    23 hours ago

    If it’s generally socially acceptable, and I’ve gotten used to it, I’ll usually be ok with it. Otherwise, I’ll probably be grossed out by it. I know that’s dumb, but at least I’m being honest.

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    Depends on how liquidy it is.

    Skin and organs are no-no

    Dried skeleton, maybe.

    If its “artificial life forms” like a non-carbon based robot, I’d happily gouge its “eyes” (cameras) and put then in a necklace.

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    21 hours ago

    Also: you might like Caitlin Doughty/Ask A Mortician’s videos and/or books. A lot of discussion about different cultures’ approaches to death and how people’s attitudes have evolved over time.

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    I’ve been pondering this myself. We had to have one of my cats (the one in my profile pic) put down last month, and we got a fur clipping, as well as her ashes. I’d like a piece of memorial jewelry or glass and I’m finding I’m OK with stuff that includes the fur, but not OK with cremation jewelry/cremation glass, and I don’t really know how to articulate why. I think part of it is that fur and hair are shed throughout a lifetime anyway, but dividing up someone’s bones or ashes almost feels like commodification to me.

    (To be clear: I’m not judging other people who do this with their loved ones’ remains, be they human or animal; this is just, like, my opinion, man.)

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    I bought a pretty shell necklace in Samoa, and then asked the seller what shells it was made from.

    He said… “Dolphin’s teeth.”

    When I reeled back in horror, he chuckled and said, “Yum yum.”

    I have various bits of jewellery made from beef bone, I happily wear leather, but there was something intimate about teeth that made it gross, plus eating dolphins, argh.

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    The necklace made of human ears my grandpa brought back from Vietnam is totally disgusting because they’re all really shriveled up so they look like little kids’ ears now.

    But he also made one from human teeth, and that’s less disturbing because maybe he just got them from a dentist’s office in Saigon, you know? I never asked him while he was still alive.

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    Ethics are the big line for me. The human remains market is pretty infamous for having dubiously sourced parts - people who did not consent to having their body bought and sold.

    The exhibit Body Worlds, which travels to different museums, is an example of this. Some of the bodies are likely executed prisoners, who did not consent to have their bodies displayed in this way. The US has a horrible history of treating indigenous peoples corpses with disrespect. Two of the children who died in the MOVE bombing ended up in a universities collection without the knowledge or consent of their relatives.

    I would be willing to have a skeleton or preserved organs as teaching materials, if I knew the individual involved gave their consent for that use. If I ever can afford a hysterectomy I would love to preserve my uterus for that purpose. I’d love to be an articulated skeleton in a science classroom after I’m done here on earth.

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      You just need it to be not too humid and in the dark. I have seen mummies stored like under a bench FWIW.