depends how much chinese influence you want in the gaming market. They are already the biggest gaming company in the world.
It’s also a bit hypotritical for chinese companies to be suing US companies for antitrust laws when the Chinese government outright bans app stores like Steam and Google Play in their own country. They get to have their cake and eat it too, then use all the money they make in china to push out further into the world economy.
The domestic market can be, and even that depends on your perspective. For example, China doesn’t have the insane Disney copyright regime the West has that artificially suppresses competition.
Competing in the domestic Chinese market is another conversation entirely, as right now, for video games, China has to come to us. The remnants of insular, planned economy only get you so far when you’re trying to build soft power and expand into foreign markets.
The issue though is that Chinese companies have the ability to tap into the massive domestic market in China in addition to international markets, while non-Chinese companies are locked out of the Chinese market unless their Chinese competitors get a cut. So the Chinese developers who get that additional profit from domestic Chinese players end up with a lot more financial weight to throw around than non-Chinese developers, who easily end up getting bought out or pushed out.
Yeah. Tim just wants his shitty App Store in more places so he can make his own anti competitive deals to force people to use it.
If the Epic Games store was a great feature rich platform on PC, Mac and Linux, then I would be inclined to take him at his word. But they have been running it for how many years? And it’s still bare bones and not offering anything compelling apart from subsidized free games.
I wish more people could recognize you can support specific actions without liking or approving of the entity taking those actions. It’s not a binary choice.
in this case, the specific action gives the entity an unfair advantage in the global market. Epic (with help from tencent) is suing US companies for antitrust laws, but tencent benefits from exactly that with stores like Steam and Google play outright banned in china. They have the entire chinese market to themselves and use the profit from that to push out further into the global market by doing stuff exactly like this.
Epic is ~40% owned by Tencent which is a chinese company that directly benefits from Chinese Governement sponsored monopolies. China legally banned US based stores like Steam and Google Play.
Epic is not here to do you favors, they are here to push Tencent and China’s global agenda.
honestly, my opinion of epic is starting to improve more and more with every legal case they open, It’s about time someone with money stepped up.
They are bringing what everyone knew was going on into official record and forcing countries to do something about it. I’m rooting for em
Don’t fall for the trap. It’s one billionaire mad at the other. Epic has alot of puff but no real pazzaz for their store.
it’s also bankrolled by Tencent.
Is that a bad thing?
depends how much chinese influence you want in the gaming market. They are already the biggest gaming company in the world.
It’s also a bit hypotritical for chinese companies to be suing US companies for antitrust laws when the Chinese government outright bans app stores like Steam and Google Play in their own country. They get to have their cake and eat it too, then use all the money they make in china to push out further into the world economy.
There’s no stopping that train now, Tencent or no.
Traditional devs need to be ready to compete, and breaking up monopolies makes for a market more prepared to do so.
I think that is the problem, though. The Chinese market is inherently anti-competitive.
The domestic market can be, and even that depends on your perspective. For example, China doesn’t have the insane Disney copyright regime the West has that artificially suppresses competition.
Competing in the domestic Chinese market is another conversation entirely, as right now, for video games, China has to come to us. The remnants of insular, planned economy only get you so far when you’re trying to build soft power and expand into foreign markets.
The issue though is that Chinese companies have the ability to tap into the massive domestic market in China in addition to international markets, while non-Chinese companies are locked out of the Chinese market unless their Chinese competitors get a cut. So the Chinese developers who get that additional profit from domestic Chinese players end up with a lot more financial weight to throw around than non-Chinese developers, who easily end up getting bought out or pushed out.
Yeah. Tim just wants his shitty App Store in more places so he can make his own anti competitive deals to force people to use it.
If the Epic Games store was a great feature rich platform on PC, Mac and Linux, then I would be inclined to take him at his word. But they have been running it for how many years? And it’s still bare bones and not offering anything compelling apart from subsidized free games.
I wish more people could recognize you can support specific actions without liking or approving of the entity taking those actions. It’s not a binary choice.
in this case, the specific action gives the entity an unfair advantage in the global market. Epic (with help from tencent) is suing US companies for antitrust laws, but tencent benefits from exactly that with stores like Steam and Google play outright banned in china. They have the entire chinese market to themselves and use the profit from that to push out further into the global market by doing stuff exactly like this.
Epic is ~40% owned by Tencent which is a chinese company that directly benefits from Chinese Governement sponsored monopolies. China legally banned US based stores like Steam and Google Play.
Epic is not here to do you favors, they are here to push Tencent and China’s global agenda.
Any benefit to you is incidental to them trying to make a profit. Don’t be fooled into thinking they are fighting for you.