I’m sorry but I’m frustrated by the blatant misuse of AI by my students and colleagues alike. It’s so obvious when they don’t understand what they’ve written.
That’s unfair to microwaves.
Man, don’t you be dragging down microwave cookery like that. People who depend on LLMs are not like people who cook with the microwave; they’re more like people who don’t know how to cook, refuse to learn, eat takeout for every single meal, and still demand you address them as “chef”.
And now I’m going to talk about microwave cookery.
I think people who object to microwave cooking and see it as ‘lesser’ are either snobs, or people who have never used anything less than 100% power and get food that’s both scalding hot and still frozen.
If you’re in the second camp, try cooking for twice as long at 50% power. For most foods you’ll get an even heat well beyond anything a convection oven could manage. In some dishes the unevenness (e.g. crisping) is desirable, but in most it’s not.
As someone who worked in a kitchen quite long, a microwave is a good tool and never the best substitute
If you want a baked potato in under 10 minutes then the microwave is the only option.
And that’s exactly my point! Same with rice, you can have rice in a few minutes via the microwave. I like to be in control of my food however and quite often choose the longer road so I have better choice in how the rice or potato comes out
I only downvoted this because it’s an insult to microwave cooking.
So you had no reason to downvote at all & did it for fun ?
No, my reason was that using a microwave for cooking is completely valid and not at all comparable to letting AI produce garbage for you that you then blindly copy into your own source code.
Hopefully it was a symbolic downvote. They say they did only to provoke but in reality they did upvote.
I would say it’s more accurate to say that vibe coding is to coding what microwaving a ready meal is to being a restaurant chef.
No, “coding” to “cooking” is accurate because an unfortunate minority of people make code that makes the “microwave meal” look appetizing. Vibe coding can look like code and not work, while I’ve seen code that neither looks nor, in fact, is “edible”.
You clearly haven’t eaten my wife’s cooking and most ready meals might look like food but don’t have a lot of nutrition and have now salt than you need in a week.
vibe coding is when you promised your boss a nice steamed ham but you get some burgers from the nearest fast food instead and call it your cooking. and at the end you end up burning your house.
I know what you’re referring to, and I thought that too until he said “northern lights”. Ya gotta learn to listen.
Good analogy as most people don’t understand how a microwave is working either.
That being said, at least microwaving isn’t on fast track to pollute our entire ecosystem so…
So what? Finish your thought.
Close but it’s more extreme vibe coding is putting all ingredients into shit hole mixing them up, drinking all and smiling. Just like advertising.
Vibe coding is to coding what ordering takeout from a shady ghost kitchen is to cooking
don’t understand what they’ve written
Well first of all, they didn’t write it.
Does anyone here actually cook in their microwave? I don’t mean reheat things or defrost and heat a pizza pop, but like actually cook something with the varying temperatures and all that shit they can do. Like is anyone making raw meatballs, saucing them and cooking them in the microwave?
I remember my parents cooking onions with butter in the microwave to put on subs, but I’ve never done anything like that.
Yeah, me.
Here’s the rule of thumb: do you think the food benefits from being cooked unevenly? For meatballs as you mentioned, I’d sear them in a frying pan to get a little bit of crispiness before I cook them through in the sauce in the microwave. Hunters chicken, cakes, seafood, all good. The microwave will cook far more evenly than a convection oven, though sometimes the unevenness is desirable.
You can steam potato from raw in the microwave, just need to put some water in a bowl next to the potatoes plate. Or use a special bowl made for this. It’s quicker than using a steamer, and just as good.
Super quick scrambled eggs.
Steamed broccoli.
Baked potatoes.
Chicken (small strips and 50% power)
Cake in a mug?
Oh I’ve totally forgotten about potatoes. I used to do that ages ago for ‘baked’ or mashed and it worked really well.
From time to time, just some veggies to go along with air fried chicken.
But that’s because I don’t own a stove, all of my cooking is handled by an air fryer, rice cooker, and the microwave
I do so many things with my air fryer, such a great appliance.
One of my co-workers, maybe oversold his capabilities and experience. That or whoever told me what he was capable of oversold him. Doesn’t matter at this point. Not that long ago, he basically was never submitting any merge requests, and when he did there were a ton of issues. Then one week, everything changed. He was writing code and a style that didn’t match what he had done the week before, there was an excessive amount of documentation where before there was none. It was co-pilot. He had gotten access to copilot, which we all have. But it was obvious that he’s been leaning heavily into it.
And a short-term yeah it looks like he’s doing really well. But I fear he’s not actually learning anything by doing this. Which means if there’s a mistake, for a major change that needs a happen, He’s not going to get there on his own. One time he tried to submit a merge request and I was like, there’s an obvious flaw here because this could be null and you’re not handling that. If the company ever decides that we’re not going to use co-pilot anymore, cuz I think we’re still on a trial run, He’s going to find himself right back where he started. And that’s going to hurt his career in the end.
Microwaving is cooking. Vibe coding is to microwaving what staring at the food and pretending you have heat-ray vision is to microwaving.
And because the food was frozen and is thawing because of the ambient heat, people will point and shout: “SEE! It is working! I am actually heating the food with my heat-ray vision!”
More like vibe coding is chucking the wrong ingredients at a fire and hoping the end result is edible.
Or, pretending that the food is delicious, then opening a restaurant and immediately getting shut down because people keep finding bits of glass and nails in their food.
lol thanks, you made the BOTW cooking jingle play in my head
I liken it to ordering from a restaurant where you’ve never eaten the cuisine, and you try to pass off your dish as if you made it completely from scratch.
And the restaurant is basically randomly putting food from other restaurants in the plate instead of cooking.
That’s unfair to microwave ovens because they have established uses, even in some fine dining establishments. So-called AI has none of that just yet.
AI has many very well established uses
Not really, it has a couple of niche uses mainly because people externalised the cost of coming up with a good analytical solution to their data processing problem (e.g. medical imaging analysis) which would be vastly more efficient and give insight into the underlying mechanisms, but that would cost grant money rather than VC capital and further externalised energy and environmental costs which are finally born by us, the taxpayers. Ultimately the technology as a whole is delivering very little value and like all hype bubbles mainly serves as a way of further enriching billionaires. But text generator go brrrrr
So many you didn’t list one.
Also OP didn’t talk about AI broadly, just vibe coding.
tbh if this causes the whole school system to be re-evaluated I’ll be happy, school was so utterly streamlined and boring it felt more like a daycare than a genuine place to learn and improve
Cheating found to be rife in British schools and universities
This article is more than 10 years old
Chinese students and their parents fight for the right to cheat
Not cheating, they said, would put them at a disadvantage in a country where student cheating has become standard practice.
https://qz.com/96793/chinese-students-and-their-parents-fight-for-the-right-to-cheat
And it wouldn’t surprise me if it was literally everywhere, the push for schooling isn’t to learn, it’s to pass a test, so the incentive isn’t to learn, it’s to pass the test anyway you can
Maybe there is a lot more interaction in the future between students and teachers, you can have an assignment, study X, upload it on the web portal, and then maybe the next day there will be a 1 on 1 review where the student has to explain parts of it to ensure they understand what they’re doing
With AI I’m spending more of my time reading code than writing these days and I like to understand what I’m reading
You’re getting into a problem with education where there is value in providing ordeals for students to pass, but the cost of grading is significant and something schools are trying to reduce.
How do you create a system that verifies that the test taker knows the material?
Defund the dumb teachers! (Reasonable analogy, right? /s)
