The only problem I’ve had with the EVs we’ve been leasing for 5 years now, is unsolicited criticism from EV haters. They seem to ignore the fact that I’ve been driving various diesel and petrol vehicles for decades. If my own lived experience of EVs was less rewarding than my previous ICE ownership I’d switch back. It’s not like a football team that I’m wedded to. They’re just generally better cars in terms of driving, torque, maintenance, cost to run and basically every metric that matters to me as a driver. Quite why that annoys people who in many cases have never even been behind the wheel of one is beyond me.

Ehh, I feel like a lot of people in here are arguing just for the sake of it, and because the guy who said this is from a car company.

Yes, of course electric cars are better than cars burning fossil fuels. EVs being too expensive, too few buttons and too many touch screens has nothing to do with that. The same goes for the also obvious fact, that we should focus more on public transport because it is much more efficient in moving people around than cars.

You know, that 20000-30000 premium over ICEs does buy a lot of gas over lifetime. And I’d rather not rent computers on wheels which depend on random clouds.

Make it illegal to include touch screens, tracking, no buttons and no handles. Then I’ll consider getting a loan for one 🤷‍♂️

Only inbreds hate EVs.

Normal people simply hate tesla.

Unless the (public) charging infrastructure gets expanded massively, EVs won’t become a valid alternative to most people. Not everyone owns a house where you can just slap your own wallbox onto it.

They say this whilst trying their best to make EVs the printers of the car industry. Update? The car stops and bricks itself for the duration of it. Want basic features? You have to pay a monthly subscription for the car you already payed for. Need it repaired? Have to bring it to a dealership with criminal prices because every part is serialized and they have you by the balls. Need a new battery after it kicks the bucket in 4-5 years? Expect to pay $10-20k for a new one. Oh and of course the center terminal/tablet is now crucial for the cars function, so anytime that malfunction it bricks itself again. Oh and it will always track and spy on you with GPS and onboard cameras and microphones.

They are, in every area except infrastructure, range, and (in the US) affordable variety.

We now have 2 cars that use electricity to a varying degree (hybrid/phev) and it’s awesome. The fuel savings is immediate and obvious.

People aren’t going to realize EV’s are better until the can actually afford one.

Also, maybe one day America will get their heads out of their ass and realize that public transportation is better EV’s.

No, they aren’t. It’s more like trading a donkey for a horse.

Remember when VW had hundreds of slaves in Brazil until like a year after I was born? That was pretty wild.

Horses are better than cars ! A horse is a vehicle and a pet at the same time !!

You know what horse can do that no car, electric or not, can do?

You can get on a horse, or horse-drawn carriage, completely wasted drunk out of your mind, or high, or just too tired to drive. Tell horse “home” and he will go to the stable he came from, dragging you with it all the way.

Horses consume no gasoline, no diesel, they just eat literal grass and drink tap water. And their shit is often packaged and sold as fertilizer.

How the fuck in the times of high energy prices, both gas and electricity, people are not just turning back to horses is beyond me. Horses are economically viable and sound, just grab the horses from working type, not sport type. Smarter than AI, calmer than Trump (and more reasonable), grass-to-fertilizer converter, biological motorbike.

I’m waiting for a used EV. I’ve never bought a new vehicle and have no desire to.

I can understand people sticking with horses more than I can understand sticking with ICE cars. A horse is an animal with a personality, you might feel like it’s like losing a friend.

But why do people have so much sentimentality over having cars that have tailpipes?