As an American who uses the 24-hour time, so many people use 12-hour I basically still use 12-hour.

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    Military grade is defined as the lowest quality required to be used by the military, often resulting in the cheapest product that is still suitable for military use.

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      It is, but a lot of people think it high-quality. I believe the saying goes “an engineer isn’t someone who can make something work, it’s someone that can make something barely work.” Idk, I’m going into welding, not my expertise.

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      Not quite. It’s anything that meets the minimum for the military. This, for most normal items, means getting the job done and lasting long enough, with an emphasis on low cost and bulk production. The result is “military grade” usually being the absolute worst that still works.

      As someone that outdoors a lot, this shit is great for many items. If I base camp, all my water containers are military, and I have 120mm ammo boxes for food and stuff because animals, water, and air can’t get in. Heavy and inconvenient as hell, but cheap af and works well—that’s military crap for you.

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        …absolutely zero people that have been in the US military agree with your assessment. Doesn’t matter the branch or MOS.

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          That’s not an assumption lol. Literally what 810 is.

          Shit to get the job done. If it didn’t work for you, it did for 9 others, so it worked and the job was done.

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            Hahahaha… no. It is the lowest quality highest expense piece of shit from a company that spent most of its money during the bid bribing those running the bid. Sorry not ‘bribing,’ simply giving gifts, dinners, and event invites.

            Every single Harbor Freight tool is the same quality, and in many cases come from the exact same production line, as tools sold to the military that have a 100x mark up. This isn’t even a controversial fact. This is something every single service member that was a mechanic knows. The military pays $115 for a single hammer that will break exactly as fast as a $5 special. But the $115 hammer was made by a company that was made in Congressman Fuckwitzberg’s district and paid off the board members reviewing their app more than other brands.

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              Are you trying to say that army is equipped with shit to the same grade the Russian army was equipped when they invaded Ukraine? The US and Russia look lot more similar than one would think

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                Worse in many cases. Both have massive issues with corruption that negatively effect the military capabilities of the countries. ‘Military grade’ is literally the opposite of what marketers claim it as.

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      I always saw it as “a ton of money is thrown at R-D on this one specific thing to make it do that ken specific thing really well”

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        Almost, it’s “a ton of money is charged for this minimally useful thing made by the lowest bidder”

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        That’s why they use it as a buzzword. I encourage you to do your own research now that it’s been brought up that it may differ from what they sold you on.