• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    Russia is steadily achieving their aims, they don’t need to rapidly advance because they aren’t trying to take all of Ukraine. They have the industrial capacity to be steady and thorough. Ukraine is putting up a fight, but can’t actually last for much longer.

    Secondly, regarding the profit motive, it will always result in less efficient investment. Industry is hollowed out, and can’t be built overnight. Missiles, drones, etc cost far more to produce in the US than in Russia for comparable results.

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      Comparable results AJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAHAHAHAHA!

      I’m sorry, I sneezed.

      The fact that it’s lasted as long as it had is an incredible indictment of Russia. You are conflating the war time economy Russia has morphed into out of necessity because they’ve been so deadlocked. That’s not counting the battle and infrastructure damage they continue to suffer at the hands of a small nation with a comedian leader using acme tnt taped to drones.

      Ukraine, a former nazi state using munitions that were used against them in WW2, required Russia to retool their entire industry to get the land equivalent of the parking lot of a Wendy’s.

      No matter how you slice it, it’s pathetic. Frankly China will likely sell munitions to Nato when the money is there if it’s against Russia.

      Like seriously, you realize how far off you are from reality here.

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        It costs more to build in the US than it does in Russia, because the US has a lack of industrialization. Capital utilization for the war economy can’t revive the last century of declining industrialization. Russia is steadily achieving their goals, and when the dust settles liberals will look back and act like they always said Ukraine should’ve conceded rather than drag out their defeat for no gain whatsoever.

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            No, lol. Russia is steadily advancing and achieving its goals. Calling me a Nazi because I can recognize that basic reality, as well as that when the war wraps up it will have been better for everyone, Ukraine included, had they conceded at the first few months when they had the opportunity, is absurd.

            You don’t have arguments, just assertions and ad hominem.

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              Reading through this chain, you have done nothing but assert and reassert the hollowed industry line with zero proof towards anything you’re saying. Honestly, I’m legit wondering if you’re just a bot.

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                I’m not a bot, people have done nothing but reassert their own claims ad nauseum to me as well with no proof. What specifically do you want evidence for? I’ve provided evidence in this thread when asked for.

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                  Truthfully, I don’t care about the argument enough to want your proof. I’m not taking some random internet person’s word on complex economic and industrial war time matters. Nor do I care that much because regardless of who is actually right, there is nothing I could do with the information that would change anything. It’s pointless to me. What’s going to happen will happen, and I’m not at liberty to change it. I’m just pointing out that you have done exactly what you accused the other party of doing. TBF, you’re both shitty debaters, and I’m sure you’d both flunk a debate class as is.