• fox2263@lemmy.world
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        16 hours ago

        We don’t want war. We abhor war. However, we don’t agree with a nation just walking into another nation and claiming it and people saying they should just give it up.

        If I walked in to your house and killed your wife and said this room is mine now and if you want peace you will accept it, would you?

        Russia has committed genocide against Ukraine time and time again and this is their one chance of standing up to the big bully. It’s also a wake up call for the rest of Europe while they get their industry back together and stopping relying on America.

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          10 hours ago

          The Donbass region is pro-Russian, and Kiev has been at war with that region for a decade since the Euromaidan coup of 2014 ousted the president they supported. I don’t know why liberals love metaphors and analogies, nor why they’re always terrible, it’s closer to a couple getting into a domestic fight with the husband physically abusing the wife, and the wife calling her neighbor for help.

          There’s no genocide in Ukraine. It’s a war, not a genocide. If you want to see genocide, look at what Israel is doing in Palestine.

          Ukraine is slowly losing, it’s not a wakeup call, it’s a way for NATO countries to get very rich and damage Russia at the expense of Ukraine.

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                  8 hours ago

                  UN found no genocide. Genocide is genocide when there’s genocide, yes, but there’s no genocide in Ukraine so there’s no genocide in Ukraine.

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                    8 hours ago

                    That link is empty for me. But is this also the same commission that found no evidence of genocide in Gaza for 2 years?

                    There is genocide in Ukraine.

                    Russia had kidnapped thousands of children in the first year of war - removing them from their families and forcing them in to Russian schools and the older children are being trained in the military to fight.

                    Russia in the first days of the way when they captured many towns and cities, the troops took down signage and symbols of Ukraine. They target hospitals and schools and playgrounds with no regard. They fire their missiles and drones indiscriminately.

                    Edit/ Also that Russia does not believe Ukraine exists and tries to deny the national identity of Ukraine - that’s an act of genocide This is widely reported.

                    I don’t understand why you can hand wave the violence of Russia and justify their invasion.

                    Russia have done a lot of what Israel has done if not more.

                    I want the war to end and an end to the Palestine conflict. The only way is with the removal of the heads of states to be tried for war crimes, and the full removal of all forces.

                    But that is a fantasy world apparently. Your friends in Russia can save face, money and man power by just getting the fuck out.