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    Let’s see, Microsoft kills 10, which nobody really loved but they were willing to tolerate. Microsoft insists they move to 11, which is universally reviled.

    Gamers predictably say “fuck this” and install the first gaming-oriented alternative to windows 11 they can find on Bing, and then this happens.

    Has Microsoft realized the Intel-level deep shit they are in yet?

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      Microsoft doesn’t actually care because most of their revenue is from corporate environments tied to the OS and their cloud offerings. Everyday users are nothing to them, which is why they don’t try harder to keep you from using unactivated copies of windows. You are nothing

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        Not if we look at it as linear growth. But in the environment we are in, this has the potential to be exponential growth.

        Remember when Intel intentionally ignored the mobile market?

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      I think it may be dawning on them. I’m on an international holiday & didn’t get time to faff about installing Linux before I left. But I discovered the day before my flight that Microsoft has extended its offer of security updates for another year to individuals as well as businesses free of charge, and signed up. Last time I’d looked I’m sure ESU was for businesses only.

      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/extended-security-updates

      The bit that made me laugh was: “ESU enrollment does not provide other types of fixes, feature improvements, or product enhancements.” Phew!

      I’ll crack on with upgrading to Linux when I get home, nice little winter project.

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    I’ve been on Linux for a bit. I was fedora for a long time and it’s totally fine but I tried out Bazzite for gaming and it’s been really good experience. I like tinkering but I never played as much game time because I was tinker with it. Now it mostly just work and that’s awesome.

    There are a few things I don’t like about Bazzite, like ujust for example, but it’s still worth it to me.

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      If anyone likes Bazzite but doesn’t want the immutability, Garuda is also gamer focused and easy.

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      I’m a long-time Mint guy, my current desktop is Fedora KDE because Wayland, and I’m looking at Bazzite for my old computer/HTPC but it doesn’t support my old GTX-1080 GPU, I might get a low-tier Radeon for it (I don’t want to buy an Intel card and fuck Nvidia’s butt, that GTX-1080 was literally the only GPU available to me in 2020).

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    This is a Linux distro focused on gaming.

    In the future, please say what the project is for when you post about it.

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      I was also wondering what the fuck this is. From the Wikipedia introductory paragraph:

      Bazzite is a Fedora-based[1] Linux distribution designed to be similar to Valve’s SteamOS 3 while still functioning as a normal computer.[2][3][4] It offers support for handheld PC devices, including the Steam Deck.

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        while still functioning as a normal computer

        Reminds me of when a school instructor walked by and looked at my laptop and he’s like “whoa what is that” (I had Firefox running) and I said it was Linux and he was like “whoa I didn’t know Linux could do that”

        ???

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    The amount of stuff i read about it ,i’d thought 30 Million! Lot of noise about it out there.

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    I am one of them! Converted my main machine this weekend. The worst problem I have had is getting the settings right for a Jellyfin container. Got all my games running, even City of Heroes (using Wine / Lutris). Takes a little getting used to when I have mostly used Debian-based distros in the past.

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      Bazzite is an awesome gaming machine but I def find it annoying for other stuff sometimes. I should probably install a separate distribution for everything else but I don’t want to flip between two.

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      You run Jellyfin on your main computer? It’s a lot easier to deal with it elsewhere, unless you are running docker locally.

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    Bazzite is absolutely great, if you just want a very reliable system that just works and goes out of your way. I lean nowadays way more into recommending Bazzite to new Linux users, since there is literally not much to initially set up, no matter the hardware. Gaming works perfectly fine and any regular users software needs get easily satisfied by the Bazaar.

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      I’ve been using it for 3mo now. Mostly no issues, except for installing packages without flatpak, and also the weird random slowdown to freeze (I’m assuming memory management?) I mostly use my machine for learning freecad, watxhing jellyfin, using a browser, and playing Genshin (relaxing to play while people bitch at me on my phone job)

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          Just years ago with Xubuntu. It may just be my use case. Seems to happen with WINE related stuff mostly, and I usually after days running. Once a week restart isn’t too painful.

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      I am too much of a tinkerer for Bazzite, but it’s still the distro I recommend the most for new users. If they decide they need more freedom, then Fedora KDE is the next step I recommend.

      Most Windows expats should be completely happy with Bazzite.

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        I really wanted to like Bazzite but after a couple of months I couldn’t handle it. I really need the tinkering 😆.

        I’m considering it for the kids though once we get a family PC, but I also really want things like being able to switch between Gnome and KDE and other stuff like that which makes the experience nicer.

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        I see what you mean. Sometimes I wish I could tinker with it the same way as I was used to with Arch. But in the end, it just works and goes out of my way.

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      Absolutely. I switched to Bazzite and it is everything I wanted from the switch. So painless. I have yet to find a game I want to play that wont play. Ive been using it for all my normal computer tasks. Its been the best transition to linux I’ve experienced as ive tried in the past but always hit some sort of snag

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        It’s wrird that I can play Portal 2 via Proton but Portal 2 mods crash. Also, Doom Eternal works but not via Steamlink.

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      It might be beginner friendly, but it doesn’t mean you can’t do pretty much anything else you’d want to do on any other distro. It’s just a different process.

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        Agreed. I’m a software dev and I also have a ton of weird and niche hobbies I use my PC for and I’ve never run into anything I felt like Bazzite prevented me from doing. Even if they didn’t offer the super convenient developer edition.

        For example, the immutable root partition doesn’t stop me from adding udev rules in /etc.

        In fact, DistroBox gives me the freedom to use any package from any distro I want, including the Arch AUR.

        Anyone who says Bazzite is “too limiting” doesn’t understand how it actually works.

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      I havent tried it but I cant see how it can be better than arch Linux with its AUR. Almost all software that exists is right there in its latest version.

      Fedora feels a lot more limited. I think just because bazzite is novel, a lot of people are trying it now. I dont think the popularity will last. People will understand that they get many issues with it and go back to a normal Linux.

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        You have complete access to the AUR via Distrobox. Also, how do you conclude that it has “many issues”? I do get that Bazzite might not be for everyone, but please, elaborate.

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          Since its immutable, I imagine that a lot of apps may not “just work” and need special packaging or configuration. But I havent used it. What would you say? Apps just work or they need anything special? Will Flatpaks work?

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            Flatpak works just fine, as it installs to the user directory and not any immutable part of the filesystem. Any non-flatpak apps can be ran in distrobox.

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              Distrobox seems to be a container… I wonder how well that works with applications following system themes and being able to be seen in app launchers.

              Its interesting but my experience is that usually you do get some issues with solutions where apps are not native.

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    Upstream, the Fedora KDE Plasma edition is also doing well. Nice to see that within the first release after promotion to a full edition.

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    I started trying out Bazzite yesterday and it’s been great so far! HDR is not as simple to get working as their marketing would make you think, but once you know what to do it’s not so bad.

    Al’s I’m having trouble getting OpenRGB working correctly.

    But other than that it’s been pretty good. It’s harder to tweak than Ubuntu (what I was previously using) but works much much better out of the box.

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        It’s working for just setting static colors, but when I try to install plugins it doesn’t show up at all. I wanted to use HardwareSync and maybe Effects.

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          You have to find the right plugin version. The ones on the website use different versions than the one installed by ujust. I can’t remember where I found them but it was a github repo

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            I found an older version that sounded like it should be compatible on the OpenRGB webpage but it didn’t work. I suppose I should look further. Thanks for the tip!

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              NP, I figured it out by looking through the logs, I think you can turn them on in the settings

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    anyone have experience with bazzite and mint, with a focus toward gaming? The box i want to try on, i have been procrastinating hooking up and dealing with the contents (it was my dad’s work computer and i’m the only family member with professional ethical requirements relating to confidentiality so it went to me)

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      Bazzite didn’t work for me out of the box (I wanted to see if it being ‘gaming focused’ had any positives), and what tinkering I could do didn’t fix the steam gaming. I went back to an arch-based distro and haven’t had any problems.

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      I use mint for gaming and general use and I havent had issues. However I dont really play AAA+ games, mostly older games.

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    Lemmy has a similar number of active users and makes about 3K . That money would be good for the ecosystem and could help fund upstream projects (I am sure wine could use the money for example). But they will have to use fundraising methods similar to lemmy to reach that number (popup, good message etc)

    The donate page is kinda a mess IMO to be honest. There should be one organisation to donate to otherwise this creates overchoice.

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    Man. Props to the team. At least from my perspective (I’m not into distro hoping anymore) they came out of nowhere and people absolutely loved them. I should give them a test on a VM, specially since I’ve been recommending against them because I didn’t think they are a good fit for llinux newcomers

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    I thought it was just my YouTube algorithm showing me install bazzite. Hehe guess there was a trend

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      I think its hitting a critical mass, that much upward growth is very encouraging to see. I was able to convince a handful of friends to switch to linux due to windows getting so bad, they liked the extremely simple approach Bazzite has. I think its better than Mint in this regard, Fedora has come such a long way.

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          The immutability is the main difference. If something gets messed up, on boot you simply change to the previous image and you’re back up and running again.

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            I keep seeing people saying this but realistically how many new users had to do that? IMO, it’s just the fact that Bazzite has pretty much everything you need out of the box.

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              Two editions, the current one and previous one, I believe

              And the space hog is like a few gigabytes. I think that’s well worth it for a beginner when it means that in the worst case you can always roll back when we have like terabytes of space

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          It’s image based, so it’s very hard for a beginner to fuck it up, and if they do its one or two lines of commands to fix 99% of the time.

          eg rpm-ostree rebase or rpm-ostree reset