If a government is fighting for survival while it has a bunch of horrible weapons lying around like I described, they are absolutely going to use them. No question about it. That’s why you should ban the development and production of these things even in peacetime and that’s why international treaties are so important.

The mod log is public: https://lemmy.world/modlog/2840

But that’s assuming you actually want to know and aren’t just posting this to create drama.

Your premise is that these countries have a binary choice between either using mines in a “responsible” way or be conquered by Russia which uses mines in a bad way.

This is a fallacy because there are in fact many other plausible outcomes:

• Using mines is not necessary to repel a Russian attack. Russia is currently very weakened by its war in Ukraine and NATO has significantly more material and spending (even without the US). It’s totally possible to work towards peace without resorting to these barbaric weapons.
• It’s theoretically possible that a country uses mines and still gets conquered. Mines aren’t as useful as they were 100 years ago.
• It is unlikely that this country would only use mines in a “responsible” way as you describe. Armies do extreme things when faced with an invasion and any such reservations will quickly be cast aside if it provides a strategic advantage.

Not disappear entirely, but most households won’t own desktop computers or HDDs.

Chemical warfare? Cluster munitions? Bombing of population centers?

The point of international law on warfare is that they apply to everyone regardless of circumstances. What you’re suggesting is war crimes in self-defense.

That’s clearly a false dichotomy.

OIP is just a branch of Elbit, so yes 100% of profits go to a company fueling genocide. I don’t see you dispute that.

OIP doesn’t even claim that these protestors destroyed equipment destined for Ukraine (nor is there any corroborating evidence), only that it was delayed.

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… according to Israeli genocide-supporting arms manufacturer.

By buying American aircraft?

It’s saying the quiet part out loud. Surely anyone who sees this will be outraged?

Non-biased source: https://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-war-nuclear-trump-bomber-news-06-23-2025-9e78510c88ccc5e262341f41550609c5

It’s an absolutely massive amount of money. And it’s not temporary while there’s a war in Ukraine, it’s indefinitely. All because Trump pressured the rest of NATO and wants more money going to his buddies in the weapons industry.

Even without the US, European NATO countries already spend more than Russia and China (sources from 2024 and 2025). Just how much more should it get?

But even if you do buy on Amazon sometimes, why should that make you on board with surrendering your city to this billionaire? It’s part of this toxic obsession of finding minor ‘gotchas’/hypocrisies instead of debating substance. You MUST subscribe to every belief of team A and hate everything from team B.

“You’re telling me none of these people shop on Amazon?” said New Orleans native Jake Springer, who, along with his wife, was spending a weekend in Venice on a wine tour through Italy. “At least they are protesting peacefully. Americans could learn a thing or two from this.”

They found the dumbest possible American to give a comment.

You’re going to love Cyberchef

That’s why I said “you sound” like that and not “you are”. Those two sentences are all you posted. I’m just telling you how they come across to me.

Because you indicate that you don’t care if it happens to others as long as it doesn’t happen to you.

FYI you sound incredibly self-centered and unpleasant.

They can make it so much harder to do that, to the point where almost everyone just gives up.