Yeah so I’m not American. You’ve spent too much time on the internet, it’s made you hate everyone that doesn’t look like you. Maybe take a break from it? Hatred doesn’t achieve anything except destruction of yourself. Choose life over hatred.
Since yesterday, I may have spent some time listening to what Iranian people have to say about the subject. You’re assumption about it being like Afghanistan 2 is completely off.
The US has a record of replacing a dictator with even worse US friendly dictators. Not to mention if the regime doesn’t fall this will be a bloody campaign, the bombs alone can easily kill more than 30,000 Iranians.
The Israel-Hamas war lasted more than two years. Iran’s government killed about half the number killed in a two years long war in just two days. But you didn’t see too many photos of it so you pretend that a bombing campaign is going to be worse.
Why do you care so little about Iranians? If Israel killed 30,000 Palestinians in just two days would you still be “meh, don’t care, not my problem”?
Right now everyone in the resistance is saying to stay inside while the bombing campaign is happening. They will wait for the signal to start the uprising. Because obviously taking to the streets when there’s a bombing campaign happening is a really dumb thing to do.
Consider that this site might not be giving you all of the information about what’s happening in Iran.
No way to know how many will take to the streets when they’re told “it’s time”. Last time it was millions. The regime machine gunned down tens of thousands, bodies piled up in the streets, really horrific. This time I’d guess the resistance is going to have weapons air dropped to them and some drone support and intel. Should even things up.
There are very few people in Iran that don’t know someone that was executed by the regime and the IRGC is being decimated. If the members of the IRGC were smart, they’d get out while they can, though I don’t know who would take them. I suppose Russia is always looking for some more criminals to send to the front lines.
Best of luck to the resistance when the time comes.
What would be a worse situation than someone saying they want to destroy other countries while building nuclear weapons?
And you seem to be ignoring them massacring people by the tens of thousands. If you have the stomach for it maybe read a little bit about what happened in Iran in the last few months.
Or is it because Trump might not really care about it that means you don’t care about it either? What kind of logic is that?
Why is it you see Iranians on the streets with both the pre-republic Iranian flag along with the Israeli flag? Do you think they’re so naive that they don’t know anything about Israel or Gaza? Have you considered that what they’re going through has made them so desperate they will accept help from any country with the willingness to overthrow the Ayatollah?
Just because you’re not seeing imagery of the atrocities the Iranian government has done, doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. Piles of bodies on the streets 30,000 people executed in a 48 hour period and you’re talking about “well things could be worse!”
Maybe you hate Trump and Netanyahu, but do you have no empathy for the Iranians killed by the Ayatollah’s regime?
There already has been a mass shooting in Texas done by someone with an “Iranian themed” shirt on.
And someone shot up an Iranian owned gym in Toronto, the owner of which was an activist against the Ayatollah. No one was there, no injuries. That guy isn’t cowering in fear of the Ayatollah, so why are you?
The Iranian nation has had their autonomy taken away from them, first by Khamenei and now by the US and Israel.
Are you saying they got their autonomy back in the last month after that asshole executed 30,000 people? Pretty sure they didn’t have autonomy for quite a few decades now. They have slim chance to take it back. The odds are the IRGC will hold onto control, but it’s ridiculous to imply they somehow lost autonomy twice. You either got it or you don’t and with the IRGC around they don’t have autonomy.
In you’re little analogy is the abusive dad always saying he wants to kill me and was handing out guns to people in the neighbourhood, telling them to take shots at me, which resulted in one of my kids getting killed? Then the abusive dad starts putting together a bazooka, all the while saying he’s going to kill me?
Your analogy kinda sucks. The abusive person is up to all kinds of shit in the neighbourhood and gets himself killed. If he was abusing his family and not going out into the neighbourhood and causing shit, he probably wouldn’t have gotten killed. But he’d still be a shitbag.
The wife and kids may or may not be upset by him getting killed, but I wouldn’t expect anyone in the neighbourhood to stick up for an abuser like you currently seem to be doing. Very bizarre to attempt of some analogy to be all “think of the children” over a guy that was such a terrible person.
Oh right there was a missile exchange. When you said “bomb Iran” that implied the use of warplanes, which wasn’t what happened. It was a tit-for-tat missile exchange, kinda meh compared to the war with Hamas and the war with Hezbollah which was happening at the time.
The missile exchange deescalated very quickly, but I guess you wanted a big speech from Biden condemning Israel rather than a diplomatic effort to get both sides to deescalate?
Iran has tried to assassinate Trump.
What should some other country should try to avenge the Ayatollah on his behalf? Guy was a piece of shit, why would anyone do that?
There are no good guys and bad guys. That’s a child’s understanding of the world.
Iran was building nukes while threatening countries that have the capability of bombing them. The Iranian regime made a major miscalculation there, it’s painfully obvious to anyone that can think strategically at all. They’re incompetent, which happens when you have hateful religious zealots running a country.
They also happen to be evil as demonstrated by the fact they executed people by the tens of thousands in the last month. I’m not sad the Ayatollah is dead. May he burn in hell.
If you think calling someone a simpleton is toxic, maybe you should refrain from calling other people a simpleton.
Well yeah, the Iran nuclear program started when W. Bush did his axis of evil speech naming off a hit list of countries the US would be going after… Iraq, Iran, and North Korea.
But none of that negates the fact that Iran was developing nuclear weapons while stating many times their goal was to be an existential threat to another country.
Maybe if you’re making nukes don’t go on and on about how you’re going to destroy another country while doing so? If you do that, you shouldn’t be all that shocked when that country starts bombing you. The actions of the Iranian regime were really nuts when you think about it.
Gonna need a source for your claim on an Israeli airstrike on Iran during Biden’s term.
If you want more than a simpleton reply, then you should refrain from making simpleton comments.
You’re talking about shit that happened before I was born and I’m guessing before you were born too. At a certain point people aren’t reacting to what an asshole did to them, they’re being assholes on their own. If you’re being a reactionary to something that happened before you were born, you’re just using history books as an excuse to be an asshole.
Good faith negotiations simply weren’t going to happen after Trump cancelled the deal that was in place an assassinated Iran’s top general in his first term. This war was pretty much inevitable at that point.
Maybe if Harris were President and Trump were in jail trust could’ve been rebuilt and the war could’ve been avoided. Oops… I forgot I was on the “both sides are the same” website, nevermind LOL
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Uh… they tried that already?
Do you think the Ayatollah was installed by the US?
For sure. It seems the thinking is the Iranian people might rise up and overthrow the regime. But that’s just throwing a dice and hoping for the best. A month ago that could have happened, but the regime has already machine gunned down so many people and executed so many more, that is that going to happen now? A lot of things would have to line up for that kind of thing to work and it’s impossible to make a movement among a population work like a military operation.
Something that seems to have gotten lost in this is the fact that Iran was enriching uranium. The Uranium Iran gets from Russia is already enriched by Russia to the level suitable to be used in their nuclear reactor. People seem to discount the Uranium enrichment as propaganda (because of the lies of W Bush) but this is science. They were enriching Uranium to 60%, if they continued you’d be in a situation where a country that calls the US “the Great Satan” and has officially said they want to “wipe Israel off the map” could have nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them.
All things considered, it would have been best to have continued the agreement Obama made with Iran. The reports from IAEA indicated they were abiding by that agreement. But Trump cancelled that in his first term, which made this war all but inevitable. There is truth to the statement that we can’t have a fundamentalist regime whose goal is to be an existential threat to other counties be in the possession of nuclear weapons. What Trump doesn’t say is he cancelled the agreement that was preventing that before. Iran was unlikely to sign onto a new agreement (at least not in good faith) after Trump cancelled the old one and assassinated their top general. Trump did all of the acts of war in his first term, and only now is having the actual war.
Given the mess Trump created in hist first term, he painted himself into a corner and this war was the most likely outcome. So now there’s nothing to do but wait and see what happens next. I hope for the best for the Iranian people even though it would be a big political win for Trump if it does work out.
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