• plutopos@lemmy.zip
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    14 hours ago

    I don’t like these one-liners that try to extrapolate a simple general rule from a much more nuanced reality

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    I feel sad hearing this phrase. I think a friend is a friend regardless of what they feel so saying someone isn’t a friend because of what they might be experiencing sounds isolating for both parties

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      I think this is the only place where I don’t have to scroll years in order to find a reasonable answer.

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    That’s inaccurate. I’m jealous of a lot of my friends. I tell them I’m jealous. I’m also happy for them and help them out, especially if it helps them get to the point where I’m jealous of them.

    You can have more than one emotion and opinion about things.

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      Would you say that rather than jealousy, you feel sympathetic joy? Because as defined by Cambridge dictionary, jealous is “an adjective used to describe someone who is feeling or showing an unhappy, resentful, or bitter emotion”.

      I feel that people don’t seem to think jealousy is a negative emotion even though that’s what it’s defined as.

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        People are capable of incredibly complex emotions, such as feeling both unhappy bitterness of their own lives in comparison, while feeling and displaying joyous celebrations of their friends success.

        One can have both positive and negative experiences of the same event. There’s no use in trying to narrow down to either one.

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          Sure but if you were given the option of a friend who is both jealous and feels sympathetic joy compared to one who only feels sympathetic joy for you, I would trust one more than the other on average

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            [I’m not the one who originally commented]

            I wouldn’t know the difference.

            All I can know and judge on and care about is how they choose to respond, not how they feel.

            And I personally trust people who tell me of their ugly emotions (after we’ve been friends for a long time) more than the ones pretending to be perfect a decade into the friendship.

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              But the people who genuinely don’t get jealous aren’t pretending to be perfect. The ones pretending to be perfect are the ones that do feel jealous and hide it.

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                Feelings if you don’t act up on is fine. Those are akin of invasive thoughts.
                The moment those snide remakrs start: who were you hanging out with? Why are you looking at them? I won’t talk to you if you are hanging out with them!
                Pure hell. So answering your question again: no jealous friend is a burdensome connection that infects your emotions with their insecurities and dependency.

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    There’s a difference between envy and jealousy. It’s fine to be envious and jealous both, but if you start to be resentful and behave aggressively when jealousy takes over, that’s where you should evaluate if you really want to be friends with me.

    I mean, why be friends with someone who gives you lots and lots of negative emotions?

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    Do friends contradict themselves?
    Very well then they contradict themselves,
    (They are large, they contain multitudes.)

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    A couple of years ago my uncle Pete came home early from work. As he entered the house, he heard these weird thump-thump-thump sounds coming from the upstairs bedroom. Softly he walked up the stairs. Uh, somehow I lost track of what I wanted to say.

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    Are you using ‘jealous’ in the correct way as they are afraid of you snatching up their ‘stuff’?
    Or in a meaning of envy as they are being envious of you having better ‘stuff’?

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        feeling angry or unhappy because someone you like or love is showing interest in someone else.

        That’s not friendship but trust issues and dependency.

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          So you single out that one useage but ignore the possesive and protective useage of the word. What was your purpose of commenting on this post?

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            The definition you would get if you googled or looked up jealous in a dictionary

            I asked you for clarification, you answered and now you are blaming me for giving you an answer you don’t like.

            Jealous behavior acceptable in preteens only. Above that age is just pure insecurity and just freaking nasty thing to deal with.

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              It’s not that you gave me an answer I didn’t like. You read part of the definition and went off that. If you read 1 third of a book then you likely wouldn’t have a well structured opinion of the book right?

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                Again I asked you for clarification and after your answer I quoted the first, number one main, grammatically correct definition.
                And you are still being unhappy. Are you the jealous person you are asking about?