Digg:
It had potential, but after becoming an ai news aggregator now there’s none.
Lemmy:
Low engagement / kinda dead. Also, I have heard that the growth is slowing down(somebody pls provide a citation for this).
Besides that, it’s pretty much reddit, for better or for worse.
9gag:
I just made a post there, my first impressions are not good. Got insulted and my post got removed. Now, that might have something to do with me not understanding how the website works, but only time will tell. I will spend more time there to see if it’s worth anything.
Low engagement / kinda dead
Don’t compare numbers with sites like reddit. The quality of engagement is really good on lemmy. You can talk to real humans here.
Quality over quantity
I hear this a lot with no explanation concerning why they feel so confident. I’m not saying your wrong, but I am saying you’re speaking about things that aren’t definitive.
I know it subjectively after interacting on lemmy / piefed.
The philosophy behind the fediverse tends to attract a chill crowd that wants to just discuss and pass time without an agenda—like selling products or karma farming. It also keeps bots at a minimum.
this is an important observation. lemmy users are pretty damn protective of our signature drive-by commentary and federation makes it easier to enforce “small world graph” etiquette.
holistically, I have never seen any situations where federation, on net, did not make things objectively better.
Lemmy:
Low engagement / kinda dead.
Waltz into any thread and say the word “Tankie”, and then come back and tell me if this is still true lmao
Lemmy is not dead at all. It’s just doesn’t have hundreds of millions. There are many vibrant communities, like this one
Outside of Communism, Linux, and Star Trek, there isn’t that much.
Most people aren’t here because of what this place is, but what other places aren’t.
You shouldn’t be getting downvoted. This is a pretty accurate though missing a couple things (American politics?).
I follow a couple of game communities here and they get a post every week or so. Why aren’t game subs more active on Lemmy? Simply put it’s not the gaming demographic. And that same logic applies to a lot of communities on Lemmy.
There’s also something that always comes up when talking about communities that fall outside of Lemmy’s focus; start the community yourself. But frankly there were a lot of niche communities started with the Reddit exodus that are dead now purely because many of Lemmy’s users are almost hostile towards communities outside of those original ones mentioned.
I’ll stop there. There are a lot of nuances that I’m not touching on but I don’t want this to be an essay.
You shouldn’t be getting downvoted.
agreed. a tad snarky, but it was an honest opinion. lemmy will grow and communities will fill out.
dumb idea here..
one thing that may help are clients that allow community aggregation into meta communities. this would allow users to be presented with a themed superfeed of similar communities across many instances. easiest done at the client level (no protocol changes needed), but could be extended to communities using meta tags or moderator inclusion into meta communities with protocol help. protocol support would also allow meta communities to be presented via the web interface.
perhaps this has already been done in some clients. if implemented thoughtfully it could be interesting and perhaps even useful.
Not a dumb idea at all imo. One of the reasons I switched apps from Voyager to Mlem is that Mlem has a small feature that shows posts in other communities that are the same as one selected. It would be even better if it aggregated them but it’s better than sorting through a bunch of duplicate posts on the feed.
Don’t forget the lesbian hornyposting … or maybe that’s just me feed …
I mentioned Linux.
Touché
HAHA HaHa haha… * cry *
Exactly. There is a community set up, but posts are daily at best with only a few comments.
Honestly, that’s enough for me. I don’t want to spend hours here. A few minutes are enough.
Owls
i see a whole lot of stuff here and not a single communism/startrek post. there are many foss/linux stuff tho
Communism posting is usually on Lemmy.ml, Hexbear.net, and Lemmygrad.ml.
yep so you don’t see them unless you actively subscribe to those communities.
Depends on how you sort, locally or by all, new comments or active.
Lemmy is pretty great. Growth isn’t as important when profit isn’t the goal, and I like having a lot of communists. It might appear more dead from your side because you’re not on an instance federated with most of them, though. Lemmy.world is definitely more similar to reddit.
Please excuse my ignorance, but should I change instances then? To one instance that it’s federated with more other instances? To Hexbear.net or something? I know my account is old but I only really started using Lemmy after I got banned on reddit a few weeks ago
Do you want to see communist content more? Lemmy.ml or something like Lemmy.zip can maximize federation. Do you want to pretty much only see content from leftists of various stripes, and want to defederate from non-leftists? Hexbear.net is nice too. It depends on what you want.
Personally, I think the best thing to do is scroll some instances locally without an account and see if you like the vibe, then transfer over to the one that fits you the best.
What if I prefer communists, but also want exposure to contrasting/conflicting views and principles? I know you advised a lemmy.ml acc, but I have been here for a few months and constantly hear about how other instances block/defed the .ml instance. I kinda hate how ppl shut out others and use lemmy to just form their own echo chamber of comfort. What instance do the moderately conservative communists prefer?
Lemmy.ml isn’t really defederated. Individual users may block it, but that doesn’t stop me from seeing their viewpoints, it just stops them from seeing mine. You could make a Lemmy.zip account, and just subscribe to the communities across instances you want to see, then scroll by “subscribed,” making your own local feed.
I don’t know what you mean by “moderately conservative communists,” communists are definitionally radicals.
When I speak of ‘moderately conservative communists,’ I mean something closer to someone who acknowledges that to survive the ecological catastrophe and economic madness, we must become conservative. We must conserve the commons, the state’s capacity to protect its citizens, and the welfare state against the ‘radical’ destruction of the market. Basically I think we should have a strong state that limits the freedom of corporations to destroy us.
Please counter-attack where I go astray, preferably viciously too.
I don’t really think “conservative” is a helpful angle due to the connotations. I think “pragmatic, and planned” are good descriptors. The advancement of green energy, the radical restructuring of society, all of this is definitely not seen as “conservative.” Further, I’m confused if you mean social democracy, or socialism proper (ie, Nordic capitalism vs. China’s socialist market economy).
I understand the hesitation with the word, but I think we need to reclaim it. If we look at the ecological crisis, the market is the ‘radical’ force destroying the planet. To be a communist who wants to strictly protect the environment is, by definition, a ‘conservative’ act. We are trying to conserve the habitability of the Earth. It isn’t about choosing between Nordic social democracy or China’s model; it is about the state acting as a adequate defense against the chaos of the market.
My issue with both choices is that both are ultimately still playing by the rules of global capital. I’m talking about a ‘conservatism’ that refuses both. It isn’t about being ‘pragmatic’ or simply ‘planned’ in my opinion, it is about the strict protection of the commons.
federation certainly allows the bubble to close - {dot}world is an example; zero hate, people can absolutely choose to ensmollen their PoV if that makes their world safer. the nice thing is, interesting, thriving alter-views are only a federated instance away :-)
I tend towards the democratic socialist point of view as a default, but damn-me if hexbear isn’t both entertaining and informative, even if I disagree with some of their more… spicy(?) positions (sometimes vehemently).
lemmy{dot}ml is one of the most widely federated instances around, primarily because its a pretty diverse mix of lefty and lefty-ish ideas. lemmygrad{dot} hexbear{dot}net and blahaj{dot}zone and others equality as infuriating/interesting are all accessible from lemmy{dot}ml. its a pretty ideal instance, for me at least.
one thing I do try to make a point of doing is preferentially interacting on non {dot}world posts and comments. many peeps will post across community instances to encourage engagent diversity. keeping things active on non-{dot}world communities helps everyone.
I like the fediverse based alternatives. Lemmy, piefed, MBin(or something like that - never tried it). Feels more like building a community. Most corparate Digital Media for me feel more like being forced to go there.
Ebaum’s world will be back on top any day now
