The cost of living is too high. Having children is really expensive and you have to worry about whether they’ll make it as adults or whether things will be even worse then
capitalism
Other activities outcompete children.
The other points like difficulty and money are valid but I think primarily kids are just not worth it for many and they’d rather travel or just have their own time which imo should be a perfectly acceptable take.
That’s for the first child but once you got one the barrier for more is almost always finance or pregnancy difficulties. Kids don’t scale as well as they used to.
Because landmasses don’t have reproductive organs with which to procreate.
I’m not in most countries
Anecdotally, I’d say money and the world would be the two big things.
People don’t have enough money to raise kids. Americans can’t afford to give birth with hospital bills. Childcare is expensive, but the alternative is no income. People can’t accumulate generational wealth, so there’s nothing to pass on, therefore no need for anyone to pass it to.
Environmental anxiety is real. Why bring kids into a world that’s about to burn?
Maybe one last factor is rebellion. A small sample I feel like chooses not to have kids so as not to perpetuate the system. The billionaires can’t exploit my kids if I don’t have any.
I know 30-somethings that live with their parents because they cannot afford their own house and there are no decent rental houses available either.
Only get pregnant if you can afford it.
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No, not like that
Here in Northern Sweden the preschools in the cities are all closing down due to lack of kids. We have the opposite problem in the villages. Long waiting lists and shortages. Our municipality, population 5000, has 6 existing preschools and just built a new one. City housing costs more than 3 times as much as the villages and small towns. Families can’t afford housing in the city. It’s all rich retired people in the larger houses and young single people in tiny apartments.
i personally am afraid that my child would live through a terrible future. also: i just dont feel like it. so maybe the existential anciety is more subconcious? idk
Countries can’t have children, they’re not alive.
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Thebes begs to differ.
For being alive or bearing children?
Bearing children. The founder, Cadmus, killed a dragon and buried the teeth in the ground and from that were “born” the Spartoi, fully grown and armed. They fought until only the strongest remained who then sired the noble houses of Thebes.
Have you seen how the world is doing?
Here are my reasons:
- We are already starting to feel the effects of global warming, it will only get worse and people don’t take it serious. Why should Ibput another soul into this world just to suffer from the stupidity of others?
- Child care is super expensive and quality isn’t great and being a stay at home parent isn’t really an option if you want too keep up in the work market place.
- Why should I have a kid, if I’m not gonna spend time with them? I mean to feed them & offer them all the anemities, me and my partner would need to work full-time, so when are we gonna spend time with our kid?
- edit see bellow why.
- I like my freedoms.
- The schooling system is shit. Why should I raise kids in a society that starts the “grind” at age 5 and keeps you going until you are 65?
- etc.
we all dream of having […] neurotypical, cis kids, but it’s a high possibility of that not being the case.
Is that a personal gripe of yours of there being more recognition for more neurodivergent and transgender recognition?
Oohhhhh shit, I worded that one horribly… my add brain fucked it up and it came out so worng… I first wanted We all dream of having healthy kids but what if they are not (thinking of cancers or other medical diseases) and than a second bullet point as in, what if your kid is not neurotypical or non cis (queer) are you able to deal with everything that comes with? (Thinking of how bad society has turned against them in the past few years with the rise of the far right and how dificult it is tobstand up for peoples rights).
I truly have nothing against neurospicy and queer people. I know the way I worded it was terrible, and should I have offended anyone, I’m terribly sorry. Also thank you for pointing it out!.
Ok cool, I wasn’t sure so I figured I’d ask rather than accuse
My take is “How can I afford to have a kid when I can’t even take care of myself?”.
Everything is so god damn expensive. And it gets worse every single day.
Don’t worry though, no country is really worried about it yet because if they were they would work on making things not so obscenely fucking ridiculously expensive. (Although knowing rich bastards they’d probably just let humanity die out before they lost 5¢ on every sale)
Or at least give some sort if credit to you to lift the burden a bit. I think maybe South Korea is doing this and some Nordic countries and even China too I believe.
But still, if you have to get the calculator out and figure out how many meals you need to skip this month to be able to pay your bills I think having sex is the last thing on your mind.
Shit, most people probably ran their mates off already from the insane, soul crushing, non stop fucking stress that being able to never get ahead in your entire life brings. Bonus points if you already had a child with them, now you get to have 25% if your income stolen from you for the next 18 years (25 if they go to college) even if you see them more than they do in a lot of instances. That will sure get you in the mood.
And if not its still hard to want to fuck when you’re hungry or when you’re constantly about to lose it all and barely hanging on by a thread and obsessing about that reality in your head every single second of every single day.
TLDR: shit is too god damn expensive and it just keeps getting worse with absolutely no end in sight.
We’re like pandas in captivity. We’ll fuck if the conditions are right. They haven’t been right in a loooooong time. A little bit of enrichment in our enclosures would help tremendously.
