• yesman@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Epstein killed himself. (same for Gary Webb)

    Too many people think suicide is rare, or extreme act. But it’s common as dirt especially for people who’s life is ruined. It’s a joke in movies that “new fish” looking at long sentences kill themselves, but somehow when it happens to someone notable, it’s mysterious and suspicious.

    Also, the idea that there was a conspiracy to murder Epstein in prison and cover it up by powerful people is an extraordinary claim with the flimsiest possible evidence.

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      Killing yourself in a high security 24/7 surveillance prison and the footage is surprisingly missing a few minutes.

      Are you kidding?

      Yes, suicide in itself is not rare but in these circumstances it’s fishy as hell and Epstein had dirt on a lot of people…

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      I think it’s kind of irrelevant if he committed suicide or got murdered. The important thing is that it was allowed. Powerful people (cough couch Bill Barr) made the decision to end his life, one way or the other, to protect their own pedophile asses.

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      Sometimes pressure is used to make someone kill themselves. I consider that murder.

      The Fed do this to people. Mafia and gangs do this to people.

    • When the concept of suicide was first introduced to me, I thought it was stupid. Like people going through breakups or like have slight stuggles in life and end their lives. I was like 8-12 or something like that, and I remember thinking like: what an idiot, especially if its like a famous person with money. My mom who told me about some famous celebrity jumping off a building in an apprant suicide and my mom suggested a conspiracy theory of someone actually pushing them off the building like a mob hitjob or some shit.

      Then…

      I got depression…

      I understand it now…

      People who never have depression will never truely understand, truely feel it…

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        When I thought about suicide as a kid, it was always school-shooting type scenarios. Like I’m going to go out, but I’m taking a bunch of these mother fuckers with me. Then I got older, recognized or developed a more pure depression and realized that I was being stupid. If I decide to check out, I’ll do it with the least impact on the world.

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      It’s just soooo weird there’s no footage of the time he died. But I do agree a cover up for this case would be a difficult thing. But let’s not forget they spent millions of dollars redacting the epstein files so anything is possible.

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      Epstien didn’t kill himself tho. Pinkertons have methods to get targets to kill themselves see Boeing whistleblowers. It is still murder.