OS: CachyOS GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Board: MPG B550 GAMING PLUS CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (16) @ 4.43 GHz Memory: 31.26 GiB
i try to keep it short: i have issues with some games (like the witcher 3) and often hear that its an issue with nvidia drivers etc…
So my question is: would a switch / small upgrade to a AMD Radeon 6800 be worth it?
Edit: Small updates:
- witcher 3 was an example. I play newer stuff. But my partner is paying witcher 3 and it lags, while I had to just tune down some settings in horizon remaster.
- I would buy an used and sell mine (would get around the same price on eBay ±40€
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It boils down to D3D12 being slower on NVIDIA on Linux and it’s a known issue. There is some work being done on this by NVIDIA and VKD3D-Proton, but I wouldn’t hold my breath knowing how long things take to improve on NVIDIA side. If you get good deal on RDNA2 or newer, it works incredibly well today.
I went from being annoyed with my 3080 to being extremely happy with my 7900xt. The driver issues no longer became an issue because AMD. One important detail is this was a new build which meant I also went from a 3700X to a 9800x3D.
Personally it’s worth it ESPECIALLY since gpu prices have come down.
Its not worth switching GPU for this. 3070 should be plenty capable of running witcher3. Ive got a friend running a 3060 and she plays all kinds of games with very few driver issues.
We should troubleshoot your issue first and see if a new GPU is required.
witcher 3 was more an example. I play newer stuff. But my partner is paying witcher 3 and it lags, while I had to just tune down some settings in horizon remaster.
I am out of town for a week, then I will update my post with more infos, thanks for offering some help :)
I put dozens of hours into the Witcher 3 running it at 3880x1440 on a 2070 super.
So I did all this on the game of the year edition with a graphics patch/mod.
Cdpr released the remaster which, in my opinion, looks about the same. But it performed like total ass.
You can download and run the old version and throw on the graphics patches. I lost significant amounts of frames with the cdpr remaster vs base game with mod
It would very much depend on how much you are going to spend. Are you selling the old GPU and getting the “new” GPU second hand? Or are you just straight up buying a new GPU?
And what 6800 exactly are you thinking of?
The difference in performance will be minimal. And something like The Witcher 3 is a very old game, so it’s not like you need the performance at all.
I would first dive into the exact issues and figure out if it’s actually related to the drivers. Usually the issues with drivers are more with new games, not something old. Keep in mind Witcher 3 has always been a janky game, so a certain number of issues is expected. And this is doubly true when using mods.
Plan was to sell the old one and buy a second hand one, since my board is not the newest and I hoped for an easier solution than troubleshooting.
It seems that everybody tells me its not worth it and can lead to simliar issues? So I gonna try troubleshooting when i am back home and send some more details :)
Switching might not fix your issues, and might just be swapping for other issues.
Ive been running Nvidia with Linux for over 10 years and its improved significantly over that time. Around the time the 30xx series came out I was looking to upgrade from my 1080ti - I wanted to switch to AMD (because I heard the drivers are better) I got a 6900XT and had heaps of problems and even worse performance in some games than my 1080ti. I ended up returning it and got a 3070ti instead, and I had no problems and performance was great.
About a month ago I wanted to upgrade my 3070ti and give AMD another shot with a 9070XT - its been absolutely flawless this time around.
All this is to say there are no guarantees going AMD will solve your problems, but I would consider going an AMD 9070 series instead - particularly since their FSR Redstone thing only applies to the latest cards
My Main thought is, that i dont wanna spend sooo much money, idea was buy a used one, sell my nvidia. Would be around a 50€ upgrade.
I understand. The 3070ti is still a good card - I personally think you might be disappointed getting an equivalent AMD card because its no guarantee to solve your problems or improve performance.
Again this is all my personal opinion etc, weigh up your pros and cons. Prices can vary a lot in different regions. You might be able to snatch up a bargain.
This sounds like driver clash. 6900xt will walk all over a 1080ti. 9070xt is good but for the price you can get a 7900xt much cheaper and gain vram over 1 to 15 frames.
No, it wasn’t a driver clash. I tried a lot of things including downloading the pro drivers that were also recommended on trying. At the time, there was a problem with AMD cards and CryEngine games performing badly.
Interesting. Usually AMD gets better with age and stability is much better than Nvidia. Although raw hardware performance Nvidia usually wins but the headaches usually aren’t worth it when you play little of everything especially indie games on steam. IMO.
Yea, I was pretty disappointed with it as I really wanted to move to AMD. I’m glad it’s going well this time around though.
My setup started similar to yours. Asus x570 motherboard with an AMD 3800x processor set for 4.0Ghz and 32GB ram. I had an nvidia 3070ti card which did work for me running the current Kubuntu LTS. Just had to make sure I always had the latest driver release from nvidia. Running games through Steam worked fine, but shader caching would take 20 minutes if I didn’t just skip it. Games had some terrible shadows at times which I could never fix no matter what settings I turned off or reduced. Bought a PowerColor 9070xt card last month (and a bigger power supply to make sure there was enough juice to run everything). Popped it in and performance has been sooo much better! I was expecting there to be issues, but the system posted fine and came right up like normal. Shading issues are gone, games look far better (water actually looks watery and has ripples), shader caching dropped to 10 or 20 seconds. And I haven’t had my system become hung up once since the switch. Friends and I have played Enshrouded, Valheim, and Ark Survival Ascended recently, and been playing a bit of Skyrim for fun too. All have run smoother, look better, and my system has been more stable… Overall it was worth it for me to get a 9070xt card.
I have had great luck with a 6600XT myself, but your mileage may vary. There seems to be a fair amount of variance in terms of which AMD cards have solid footing in Linux and which games they work well with. I haven’t had any issues but I generally don’t play visually demanding games.
Also, if you ever want to roll out your own local LLM, you’re just going to have better performance with an Nvidia card, as ROCm just seems to not be quite up to snuff at speedy work.
If it is just casual LLM stuff, just get something cheap with enough VRAM. Ollama runs with Vulkan now and on my 6700 XT I can run DeepSeek 7B just fine.
6800 xt might match 3070’s performance on Linux, but I would not consider it an “upgrade”. I would recommend looking up more info on ProtonDB and posting specific questions (if you have not tried that already).
Yes, choosing an AMD gpu will give you other benefits as well, like system stability etc., but make sure your purchase decision is worth it.
If I am not wrong, you can sell you 3070 for about $150-200 and buy a used 6800xt for about $220.
One more thing you can try before buying anything… Try a different OS, like Bazzite or Nobara based on Fedora, or PopOS based on Debian. Different bases can alter performance. I had a laptop with 3060 and it always performed slightly worse on Arch and Debian based systems. For some reasons, the GPU didn’t exceed 85 watts, even though the TDP was 100 watts. Only Fedora and it’s derivates make my GPU work as intended. But this is a case for laptop GPUs.
Was also thinking about that. But i am not really a friend of distro hopping (maybe its time to do a clonezilla backup the living room PC) :D
Also for me it was the question: troubleshooting or just being lazy and an and GPU? :D
I don’t know AMD CPUs that well but could it be you are CPU bound?
I have the same gpu RTX 3070 with an i5 8600k and Im CPU bound, not by much though. Last time I played Witcher 3 it was running very good only in Novigrad it was stuttery due to the amount of characters
