cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/54713532
President Donald Trump’s administration wants the International Criminal Court to amend its founding document to ensure it does not investigate the Republican president and his top officials, a Trump administration official said, threatening new U.S. sanctions on the court if it did not.
Archived version: https://archive.is/20251210120244/https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-threatens-new-icc-sanctions-unless-court-pledges-not-prosecute-trump-2025-12-10/
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As an American, I beg the ICC not to capitulate and investigate the fuck out of the entire trump administration.
As an American, No.
“Why would we prosecute him?”
“J-j-just don’t!”
That’s exactly why the world needs a strong and capable ICC.
And this is why we not only need to reduce our dependence on China in the long run but also our dependence on the US.
There’s just no way a sovereign state live while depending on US monopolies.
Threatening sanctions against the ICC if they investigate you. How to know you are the wrong side of history 101.
I feel like we need to add a rule to the Evil Overlord Handbook over this one.
"I will not threaten international governing bodies for prosecuting me for my crimes.
I will not do anything that is a clear admission of my crimes to the public."
I hate what the US has become under MAGA.
So you’ve never heard of the American Service-Members’ Protection Act, known informally as the Hague Invasion Act enacted in 2002. Which protects American war criminals by invading the Hague if necessary.
Yeah, sure. If somehow Trump, or any other MAGA like Miller or Hegseth, ends up in the box at The Hague, there is no way that the military will crank up to rescue him. He’ll be on his own. There might be a lot of PedoCon squealing, but that will just be funny.
Trump and MAGA is really just showing what US has always been, which the country pretends not to be.
Jesus Christ… America needs to be bonked in the head until they start having some common sense.
is it bad i’m just kinda glad they finally went completely masks-off?
republicans used to be able to atleast pretend they werent bloodthirsty psychopaths when the cameras were rolling, and dems could passably act as controlled opposition when it was their turn to play pretend.
trump is just so batshit stupid and sociopathic that the entire facade is undone.
Not that it did any good. He was re-elected.
is it bad i’m just kinda glad they finally went completely masks-off?
I understand this take, but honestly, there are things missing from it.
I think, like Vonnegut wrote, that we are what we pretend to be, and when we let them as a society get away with not even pretending to be good people…we worsen society overall.
There is another element to this as well, IMO, which is that people are mostly animals: monkey see, monkey do. When people see these psychopaths in high-powered positions getting away with whatever they want, they are more likely to model that behavior as well.
I’d rather have a society where everyone is pretending to be nice over one where people feel free to be the absolute worst version of themselves. I also think that being who you are pretending to be has a good side. People can “pretend” to be good and become better because of it.
People think that the more these people are obviously evil, the less the public will agree with them and the more precarious they’ll make the entire escapade. I think that the 2024 election and all of the events of 2025 have proven that notion is a dangerous fiction.
I’ve been of the same idea of the other user, but you have a very good point here.
Personally I will take oppressed racists over oppressing racists any day of the week.
Also while things are worse now, Republicans have been unapologetically evil for at least 40 years.
Personally I’d rather all racists burn, oppressed or not
Except before they were unapologetic because they could at least feign a moral compass despite knowing they were wrong when they were in the spotlight. Now they aren’t apologetic because they think what they’re doing is right.
Whenever I’ve done nothing wrong, I like to make that clear by going down to the courthouse and threatening judges not to charge me with anything.
I just tell law people, “I am the law,” and that usually works out for me.
I dredd to think what you tell people when you’ve actually broken the law
This, but more “I like to send my army down to the courthouse”. This is the kind of thing you can only get away with if you think you can successfully intimidate the court into not going after you.
Can you imagine a random innocent person just going to the courthouse out of the blue and trying to blackmail judges to not charge them with anything
Honestly, that is when you start the prosecution of Trump…This is a sign that the US Government is flailing about like an absolute loon, these homegrown fascists have a lot to lose if Trump is properly prosecuted.
I don’t think the ICC wants the US to invade them.
What are we going to do, stop invading ourselves?
For realsies, though, as an American, it’s hard to comprehend just how massive and far-reaching our military is. We are a terrifying threat to all mankind.
I don’t think the US government will be stupid enough to make themselves the proper enemy of the world.
Oh I think some in the US are delusional enough to think they can take the entire world.
Have you seen the current administration?
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Umm, have they? I think all of the victims of their extrajudicial killings, crimes against humanity, piracy, and suborning genocide might differ in their opinions.
Well thats one way to admit your are guilty.
The US has had the Hague Invasion act on the books as law since 2002. Trump is once again showing us the roadmap to American Fascism has been here a while just waiting for someone to see how far it goes.
What is the deal with this orange orangutan? The rightwing conservative movement can throw him under the bus and get a new idiot to lead their movement … so why hang the fate of your movement on this moron? Seriously … they could find a younger, stronger more charismatic individual to lead them that would be ten times more dangerous than this aging orange deformed sea lion.
MAGA and charisma don’t really seem to have any overlap. Miller is some kind ghouls, Vance is charmless schlub, Hegseth is a Neonazi used car salesman, Bondi is the Karen meme brought to life, Patel is clearly some kind of moron in spite of somehow achieving a law degree, Kennedy is also some sort of Nepo-moron, Oz is a scheister and snake oil salesman … it goes on.
You could look outside the admin but even those clowns have the likeability of a building site portaloo. Like what the fuck is wrong with Jesse Watters? He looks like a possessed ventriloquist dummy and he has the morals of someone who is devoid of a soul. Musk and Theil are detached from reality, I mean Theil is literally running around given lectures on the end times.
Kirk was about as close as they seem to be able to get to a functioning human being and his ideas and morals were straight out of Mein Kampf and the KKK code of conduct.
In theory they could and I think that’s what they were setting Kirk to be once Trump croaks, but then his neck did that thing. A lot of the problem is that the current crop of right wingers both the base and the leaders are fucking lunatics that are broadly crippled by their own egos and madness.
Just look at their propagandists, it’s gone from Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to fucken Asmingold and Catturd. Sure the old ones were still just as horrific and stupid but at least they vaguely attempted to be respectable. I think this devolution has been broadly effective across the board, from the highest elements like Musk and Thiel to the lowest dregs listening to some inane podcaster on the way to work.
I legit don’t think they have anyone outside of Trump who can rally their base on a unified level anymore, so they stick to him hoping they can solidify their gains before the whole damned thing implodes.
I think Tucker Carlson might be able to, once Trump is out of his way.
I think Carlson is a bit too IDK weak, timid, insecure. Don’t quite have the wording for it but one of the big advantages Trump has that most of his potential replacements don’t is that his narcissism is so all encompassing that he comes across as strong to them. Mind you that’s just self assurance and it’s equivalent to a sleazy used car salesman but it is a notable difference.
The aging sea lion enables the Stephen Millers to go about their nasty business while everyone is looking elsewhere. That’s one way he’s dangerous. The other is that he’s a threatened malignant narcissist with dementia and diminishing impulse control, and one of the world’s most powerful armies.
Hello, JD Vance!
You did read where they said charismatic, right?
Vance’s “charisma” couldn’t fight it’s way out of a paper bag.
The president had no rizz for us and tons for maga voters. Plus that’s the default if they yeet the president or he dies.
What the fuck is this shit? This is a fucking stick up!
Counter with a demand for a bribe not to investigate Trump. Then investigate him anyway. What possible jurisdiction could such an “agreement” even be upheld?
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
Law & Order: The Hague
