Couple who married in Germany had their right to a ‘normal family life’ impeded, court of justice finds

  • azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works
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    I’m so tired of right wingers in Poland. They will always repeat the same stupid argument that because in our language word “rodzina” (family) contains the core “rodzić” (to give birth), and therefore it’s an institution for reproduction, so gay couples are not families. Words ethology makes more sense than anything else right

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      Etymology, slogans, rhymes or catchy acronyms give our brains the illusion of hearing something that makes sense. Repeating them a million times drills them in your neural pathways. Plus they are easy to scream loud enough to drown any attempt at intelligent conversation.

      That’s right-hand populist communication in a nutshell.

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      So people who can’t reproduce shouldn’t be able to get married either, hysterecomies and vasectomies invalidate your marriage and preclude future marriage. Women have to get a divorce and can’t remarry once they’ve gone through menopause. In fact, men can’t give birth at all, so only women should be able to get married. Makes sense to me!

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      No clue why you’re being downvoted. I grew up in Eastern Europe. It’s a shithole of misogyny and pseudo-masculinity, like an infection by proximity with Russia and Turkey.

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        They’re getting downvoted because they made an obviously bigoted statement. But, y’know, bigots gonna bigot.

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        Poland grew up a lot in recent years though. Every post Soviet country had a rough journey rebuilding their entire country and culture tho Poland got really captured by Catholic grfit unfortunately.

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        It massive depends where in Poland. Some parts of Poland are super progressive, others regressive. It’s the nature of the beast.

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          Yep, it’s like that all over the world, anyone saying “fuck everyone from this particular country” is simply a bigot.

      • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com
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        Looks into Poland:

        deeply racist and patriarchal country, with its roots deeply tied to Catholicism

        Average lemmitor: “IT’S ALL THE FUCKING RUZZIANS AND TURKS!!!”

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          I’d like to echo what others have said about Poland not being all that bad.

          Southeastern Europe is a lot worse. They were under occupation by the Turks for 500 years, then by Russia for half a century. As someone raised in that region, I would have to think long and hard to come up with anything positive to say about Russian or Turkish influence.

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            So according to that graph you linked, Harris would have won everywhere except the bottom 8 countries, one of which is Russia and some have elected Russia friendly governments. Also out of those 7 countries, Slovenia, Slovakia and Hungary were not under Russian or Turkish influence. They were under Austrian Habsburg influence. Which only leaves Serbia, Bulgaria, Georgia and Moldova(the last two which have active Russian troops occupying their territory).

            You also assume that their dislike of Harris is due to misogyny when it could be due to her policies. Even so, she would have won the election with over 50% of votes in literally 75% of European countries, some of which were under Turkish or Russian occupation or influence(Romania, Kosovo, Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Greece and Croatia). Shit, some of these countries don’t even vote their own head of goverment with over 50% and have to hold runoff elections most of the time. Harris getting over 50% of votes means she did better than their own homegrown politicians (though I assume the result are this way because of the binary choice presented, as most European elections have a plurality of candidates and the vote is split amongst them).

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              Proximity to Russia is strongly correlated with fascist politics. Hence Trump’s appeal. That’s not a coincidence.

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            As someone raised in that region, I would have to think long and hard to come up with anything positive to say about Russian or Turkish influence

            Yeah, so you’re just openly racist, gotcha!

            If by “Russian occupation” you mean “belonging to the communist geopolitical block of Eastern Europe”, then I ask, what good things can you come up with about your newfound American occupation?

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              They’re the same race as me. Their cultures are fascistic and oppressive and I’d rather die than go back. Not that American culture is that much better.

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      The Catholic church has a very strong grip on Polish culture (and often government), which is what drives a lot of things like this

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        I’m familiar, I’ve been around polacks my whole life. The American branch is quite similar to their European counterparts.