Despite decades of evidence on the toxic effects of lead battery recycling, companies opted not to act and blocked efforts to clean up the industry.

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    9 hours ago

    I lol’d because growing up in cold climate. You had to put a block heater to keep your engines warm enough to start. That ran off electricity. So… You know, batteries keeping themselves warm isn’t really different.

    Right this very minute I’ve got two battery tenders keeping the lead acid batteries trickle charged on some motorcycles in my garage.

    None of this shit is different in any meaningful way.

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      I lol’d because growing up in cold climate. You had to put a block heater to keep your engines warm enough to start.

      I’m from Winnipeg, I know.

      None of this shit is different in any meaningful way.

      It is functionally very different. We heat our blocks, but rare is the person with a battery blanket.

      Teslas need warming and cooling for their batteries, and even at that, they lose huge range in super cold winters. But that isn’t the real problem, which is that recharge cycles are fewer and fewer every time you charge a cold li-ion.

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        Look man, I own one. I ski. None of the stuff you’re saying is actually happening. These things are edge cases at best.

        The reality is the differences aren’t important in any meaningful way. I’ve got to do maintenance on my engines to keep them running. I’ve got to keep the EV plugged in, to keep it running. Literally the same.

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        The newer EVs are switching to heat pumps for managing battery temperature. It’s more efficient than resistive heat, and can use the same system for cooling. This helps maintain range both by keeping batteries the right temperature and by doing it more efficiently.

        And who in Winnipeg hasn’t heard of what happens if you let your gas tank get too empty in extreme cold?