If the USA wans’t involved in the Yemeni revolution Houthis woudln’t exists. The only revolt that was relatively succesful was the one where the west didn’t interfere
Saudis Arabia was involved in creating chaos in Yemen fully backed by the USA. In Sudan the UAE another american ally are arming the RSF. Everywhere the US or it’s allies go chaos rein
Okay and we shouldn’t excuse the western power’s behavior, but unless the US was persecuting queer Yemeni on behalf of the Yemeni government, it’s still not relevant to the topic being discussed here.
They are risking their lives fighting a genocide that puts them straight at the top of human rights with nothing to gain from it while everyone else is complicit and nodding along.
You said that yes the USA did bad stuffs but they still give the most aid to other countries which many of them was destoyed by the US imperial policies as if the aid wipe up all the terrible think the empire did
I think you’ve misunderstood - what I said was that the US being the “paragon” of humanitarian aid doesn’t excuse the crimes they have committed, much as Yemen’s agreement to aid colombia in this should not mean we overlook their history of human rights abuses.
I’m not sure how I could be more explicit about acknowledging the evil things done by the US than to say “They have done undeniably evil things”. But while I’ve repeatedly done that, and lauded how Yemen’s involvement in this coalition is a morally correct choice, you have repeatedly avoided addressing that Yemen’s persecution of queer people is wrong, while falsely claiming that I’m somehow denying the west’s evils.
So you do agree that they’re doing evil things. But you’re willing to overlook them, because in your eyes they are doing less of it than other people. While I doubt the strict accuracy of that claim (yemen does a lot of human rights violations and there are many other countries that simply do not have the population to compete with them in volume), I am glad we can agree that their doing good things does not negate the evils they also commit.
You’re dodging the question: Why does Yemen’s involvement in this coalition excuse it’s human right’s record?
American supremacy is an important topic, yes, but it has nothing to do with Yemen’s internal human rights record, which is the topic being discussed.
If the USA wans’t involved in the Yemeni revolution Houthis woudln’t exists. The only revolt that was relatively succesful was the one where the west didn’t interfere
I’m… not sure what bearing that has on this conversation. As far as I’m aware, the west is only involved in this by supporting Israel.
Saudis Arabia was involved in creating chaos in Yemen fully backed by the USA. In Sudan the UAE another american ally are arming the RSF. Everywhere the US or it’s allies go chaos rein
Okay and we shouldn’t excuse the western power’s behavior, but unless the US was persecuting queer Yemeni on behalf of the Yemeni government, it’s still not relevant to the topic being discussed here.
They are risking their lives fighting a genocide that puts them straight at the top of human rights with nothing to gain from it while everyone else is complicit and nodding along.
So your position is that the good someone does excuses the evil they also do. An interesting position.
Which is what you did regarding the USA
Where have I done that?
You said that yes the USA did bad stuffs but they still give the most aid to other countries which many of them was destoyed by the US imperial policies as if the aid wipe up all the terrible think the empire did
I think you’ve misunderstood - what I said was that the US being the “paragon” of humanitarian aid doesn’t excuse the crimes they have committed, much as Yemen’s agreement to aid colombia in this should not mean we overlook their history of human rights abuses.
No that seems to be your position based on our conversation. But you refuse to acknowledge the evils done by the West because they are Ubermenschen.
I’m not sure how I could be more explicit about acknowledging the evil things done by the US than to say “They have done undeniably evil things”. But while I’ve repeatedly done that, and lauded how Yemen’s involvement in this coalition is a morally correct choice, you have repeatedly avoided addressing that Yemen’s persecution of queer people is wrong, while falsely claiming that I’m somehow denying the west’s evils.
Yemen comes out on top by simply committing far less evil than the rest.
So you do agree that they’re doing evil things. But you’re willing to overlook them, because in your eyes they are doing less of it than other people. While I doubt the strict accuracy of that claim (yemen does a lot of human rights violations and there are many other countries that simply do not have the population to compete with them in volume), I am glad we can agree that their doing good things does not negate the evils they also commit.
Yes it turns out that the poorest and most oppressed people are not perfect victims. But they are much better than their perfect oppressors.
Okay, I’m glad we have that sorted out!