Stop buying these fucking things. All they do is give you a memento of whatever happens at your door. They don’t stop shit from happening, they just record it.
I mean I don’t like these things but I’m sure people buy them to see who is at the door before answering or to answer when not home. Don’t believe people are buying them as security cameras.
yes and no… Will a camera physically prevent someone from breaking into your house? no. However, having a camera conspicuously installed does act as a deterrent.
One very useful function that doorbell cameras have specifically, is that I can talk to the person at the door remotely. I’ve had a couple occasions where I was unable to get to the door at the moment a delivery person showed up, so I was able to use that feature to tell them to leave the package and I’d be out momentarily to get it.
It’s also useful to get a notification when my kids get home from school and I’m in the office.
That being said, you are correct in that people should not be buying these cloud-only devices, especially when there are plenty of self-hosted options that have become quite affordable lately.
It’s important to install them as accurately as possible, too. Use multiples, and if using fake ones, be sure to make the fake ones hard to reach. The more doubt you create, the less likely you’ll be worth the trouble. It’s the same as walking in parking lots or streets with your head on a swivel. If you aren’t likely to be caught off guard, you’re probably not worth attacking.
Yes you can, if you can afford a Ring+subscription you can afford to get NVR+4 cameras and install them. Reolink even has doorbell cams that you can add to the NVR.
Generic onvif/rtsp cams are a dime a dozen and work with any NVR program that supports open standards. We’re talking $30ish for stuff that’s weatherproof, wifi, some with backup batteries, pan tilt zoom, 2 way audio. Cheap indoor models are like $20. It all runs locally if you install one of the several free NVR programs on a computer on your LAN.
You just lost 95% of people with those words. Ring and other cameras are popular because they are simple for the general population to setup and use, not because they are the cheapest. This place is such a bubble of people who think the entire world thinks just like them.
Well then maybe you should whine to DeathsEmbrace that they are wrong for only complaining about the price then.
I never claimed it was easier and you shouldn’t assume that was my claim or had anything to do with what I was saying. You’re literally just making up things that you think I said so that you can get mad about it.
If DeathsEmbrace had said that setting up your own is harder, I literally would have said yeah, it’s harder. But that’s not what they said. They said it was unaffordable. And you seem to agree with me that it’s not, since your point is that it’s about ease of use and not price - which is exactly my view.
Jesus, get offended a little? I’m just stating that setting up all the things you said is not feasible for the general population and that is why Ring is so popular. Vast majority of people will trade privacy and cost for convenience all day long. I’m not making up a single thing. I don’t know one person in real life that would know any of the shit you said, let alone set it all up by themselves to save a few bucks. That’s why they pay more for Ring. It’s easy and just works.
This place is such a bubble of people who think the entire world thinks just like them.
Your attitude notwithstanding, you’re literally the one who came in hot acting like you’re enlightening us with the revelation that the cheaper open source alternatives are harder to set up. No shit. If you haven’t invented the idea that I’m saying it’s just as easy, then how do you figure that we live in a bubble when I literally agree with you? Spare us the condescension, please.
Jesus, get offended a little?
You’re literally doing the “triggered?” meme where you behave like a jerk and then act surprised when people don’t put up with it.
Stop buying these fucking things. All they do is give you a memento of whatever happens at your door. They don’t stop shit from happening, they just record it.
I mean I don’t like these things but I’m sure people buy them to see who is at the door before answering or to answer when not home. Don’t believe people are buying them as security cameras.
yes and no… Will a camera physically prevent someone from breaking into your house? no. However, having a camera conspicuously installed does act as a deterrent.
One very useful function that doorbell cameras have specifically, is that I can talk to the person at the door remotely. I’ve had a couple occasions where I was unable to get to the door at the moment a delivery person showed up, so I was able to use that feature to tell them to leave the package and I’d be out momentarily to get it.
It’s also useful to get a notification when my kids get home from school and I’m in the office.
That being said, you are correct in that people should not be buying these cloud-only devices, especially when there are plenty of self-hosted options that have become quite affordable lately.
It’s important to install them as accurately as possible, too. Use multiples, and if using fake ones, be sure to make the fake ones hard to reach. The more doubt you create, the less likely you’ll be worth the trouble. It’s the same as walking in parking lots or streets with your head on a swivel. If you aren’t likely to be caught off guard, you’re probably not worth attacking.
Not everyone can afford cctv
Yes you can, if you can afford a Ring+subscription you can afford to get NVR+4 cameras and install them. Reolink even has doorbell cams that you can add to the NVR.
Generic onvif/rtsp cams are a dime a dozen and work with any NVR program that supports open standards. We’re talking $30ish for stuff that’s weatherproof, wifi, some with backup batteries, pan tilt zoom, 2 way audio. Cheap indoor models are like $20. It all runs locally if you install one of the several free NVR programs on a computer on your LAN.
You just lost 95% of people with those words. Ring and other cameras are popular because they are simple for the general population to setup and use, not because they are the cheapest. This place is such a bubble of people who think the entire world thinks just like them.
Well then maybe you should whine to DeathsEmbrace that they are wrong for only complaining about the price then.
I never claimed it was easier and you shouldn’t assume that was my claim or had anything to do with what I was saying. You’re literally just making up things that you think I said so that you can get mad about it.
If DeathsEmbrace had said that setting up your own is harder, I literally would have said yeah, it’s harder. But that’s not what they said. They said it was unaffordable. And you seem to agree with me that it’s not, since your point is that it’s about ease of use and not price - which is exactly my view.
Jesus, get offended a little? I’m just stating that setting up all the things you said is not feasible for the general population and that is why Ring is so popular. Vast majority of people will trade privacy and cost for convenience all day long. I’m not making up a single thing. I don’t know one person in real life that would know any of the shit you said, let alone set it all up by themselves to save a few bucks. That’s why they pay more for Ring. It’s easy and just works.
Your attitude notwithstanding, you’re literally the one who came in hot acting like you’re enlightening us with the revelation that the cheaper open source alternatives are harder to set up. No shit. If you haven’t invented the idea that I’m saying it’s just as easy, then how do you figure that we live in a bubble when I literally agree with you? Spare us the condescension, please.
You’re literally doing the “triggered?” meme where you behave like a jerk and then act surprised when people don’t put up with it.
cctv can be free if you’re use free open source software like motion or linux.