I only ever see online advertising when I’ve installed a new browser and I’m searching for uBlock Origin.

And I have to scroll to find the actual genuine link.

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    I don’t use Firefox any more. I was one of their early adopters (back when it was Firebird IIRC), but a few months ago I’d just flat had enough of their shady stuff and AI bullshit. I used Librewolf for a while but gave up on it because privacy at the price of compatibility is fine until you need something that relies on that compatibility. I haven’t settled on a forever browser just yet, I’m kinda waiting until Servo becomes a viable web engine and browsers built on it emerge. For now, Vivaldi seems to be the least-bad.

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      their shady stuff and AI bullshit

      Would you mind elaborating? I feel like I’m out of the loop!

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        The Register explained it better than I can.

        Briefly: Mozilla promised they “never will” sell users’ personal information and have removed that promise from their website, implying they’ve broken that promise. They rely on Google for 90% of their revenue so they’re definitely not independent. They’re pivoting to AI, integrating large lying machines into the browser. They turned on “Smart Tabs” by default which uses AI to organise your tabs for you - except it was using 100% of CPU for a number of users. Their CEO has a sub 20% approval rating on Glassdoor too. The last straw for me? They bought Fakespot and promptly killed it.

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          This is false. Vivaldi is on manifest v3 and runs its own internal rat race against ads. uBlock origin is neutered under Vivaldi just like all Chromium-based browsers.

          The idea that you’re satisfied on a downstream Chromium product but won’t try downstream Firefox products is confusing. Librewolf is nearly best in class and dominates Vivaldi in almost every relevant metric.

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            Can you please explain in what way uBlock Origin is neutered under Vivaldi?

            Note that I am, despite your assertion, using the full uBlock Origin, not the Google-friendly uBlock Origin Lite. Proof:

            I suspect you may simply be confidently incorrect, but I’d be interested to learn in what way uBlock Origin has been neutered.

            You are also incorrect with your assertion that I “won’t try downstream Firefox products”. I stated that I used Librewolf for months, but finally had to drop it as the tradeoffs for privacy vs compatibility were prohibitive for my use case.

            I’d also love to see the “relevant metrics” to which you refer, please.

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              Note that I am, despite your assertion, using the full uBlock Origin, not the Google-friendly uBlock Origin Lite

              Seeing your screenshot I was curious how that works, so I spent a minute searching and found this post from June 2024 where Vivaldi says:

              We will keep Manifest v2 for as long as it’s still available in Chromium. We expect to drop support in June 2025, but we may maintain it longer or be forced to drop support for it sooner, depending on the precise nature of the changes to the code.

              In my quick search I didn’t find anything more recent about their schedule for dropping it, so I guess (assuming your software is up-to-date?) they haven’t dropped it yet but presumably will do soon.

              But in any case, Vivaldi is proprietary/closed-source, so, I recommend against using it.

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                Manifest v2 extensions are still very much working in Vivaldi. I’m on version “7.6.3797.63 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit)” which is the version currently available for download directly from vivaldi.com.

                I still want to try Floorp and Zen Browser before I settle on a for-now browser though. Eventually I’d like to be on something Servo-based, but Gecko would be preferable for now if I can find one that works for me.

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          It’s also anti-open web since it’s just chromium. Nothing superior for your privacy over Firefox.

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            Please don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t claim it was “superior for privacy”. What I said was it appears to be the least-bad option for my specific use case right now.