I’m more concerned about the abuses of the government and billionaires in my own country. Why should I get my panties in a twist about a country on the other side of the planet in a language I don’t speak? That’s on their citizens to worry about. Me as a yankee and you as canuck worrying about the other side of the pacific is wasted effort at best, and buying into the military industrial complex at worst.
But our side has rules, you assume they play by the rules.
China academia has the same problem that US academia has: publish or perish.
And seriously, you can’t say something like that and ignore all the BS the US government has been pulling internationally for decades. Trump murdered 14 random people on boats that weren’t even in US territory, and seemingly no one on the international stage gives a shit
Oh theres a shit ton of BS. but you are trying to deflect to the US. no one has ever given a shit, look at Israel. What does that have to do with the context of the dicussion?
You brought it up, you specifically said “our side has rules”. It’s not a deflection to point out that “our side” violates those rules whenever it suits them.
rules isnt the right term I guess, ethics maybe, scientific principles, not pushing things before they are ready? Worried about the kids ya know. Things China might have a different view of.
Stop me if this is too large a leap, but I think maybe people in china value the well-being of their children. You know. Like everyone does, everywhere.
Also, iPad babies are a phenomenon here. Pushing things before they’re ready or we have a complete understanding of the consequences is a global phenomenon.
Hey man, you’re the one that brought up rules.
But while we’re talking about international rules, gene editing of embryos and their descendants is legal in the US if it’s privately funded. And it’s not illegal internationally to do so
Also, I’d be less worried about CRISPR specifically for this use, because it’s not always accurate, is limited in what it can actually do, and there are better gene editing tools now
The “rules” allowed for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. My government is arming and funding a genocide. Our rules are a pretext for the powerful and wealthy to do as they please, while constraining smaller countries.
I doubt any more or less than people here do
C’mon man, really?
Yeah, really.
I’m more concerned about the abuses of the government and billionaires in my own country. Why should I get my panties in a twist about a country on the other side of the planet in a language I don’t speak? That’s on their citizens to worry about. Me as a yankee and you as canuck worrying about the other side of the pacific is wasted effort at best, and buying into the military industrial complex at worst.
But our side has rules, you assume they play by the rules. You should worry about countries that don’t follow international rules.
China academia has the same problem that US academia has: publish or perish.
And seriously, you can’t say something like that and ignore all the BS the US government has been pulling internationally for decades. Trump murdered 14 random people on boats that weren’t even in US territory, and seemingly no one on the international stage gives a shit
Oh theres a shit ton of BS. but you are trying to deflect to the US. no one has ever given a shit, look at Israel. What does that have to do with the context of the dicussion?
You brought it up, you specifically said “our side has rules”. It’s not a deflection to point out that “our side” violates those rules whenever it suits them.
rules isnt the right term I guess, ethics maybe, scientific principles, not pushing things before they are ready? Worried about the kids ya know. Things China might have a different view of.
Stop me if this is too large a leap, but I think maybe people in china value the well-being of their children. You know. Like everyone does, everywhere.
Also, iPad babies are a phenomenon here. Pushing things before they’re ready or we have a complete understanding of the consequences is a global phenomenon.
…you think the US has scientific ethics? What the fuck have you been watching for the last 60 years?
Hey man, you’re the one that brought up rules. But while we’re talking about international rules, gene editing of embryos and their descendants is legal in the US if it’s privately funded. And it’s not illegal internationally to do so
Also, I’d be less worried about CRISPR specifically for this use, because it’s not always accurate, is limited in what it can actually do, and there are better gene editing tools now
The “rules” allowed for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. My government is arming and funding a genocide. Our rules are a pretext for the powerful and wealthy to do as they please, while constraining smaller countries.