I did that.
And rightfully so, I was a 15 year old in a third world country with a beat up compaq computer to download movies overnight. I couldn’t seed cuz my father would find out I wasted the internet.
Today, I can seed and have a 26TB hard drive, I preserve old movies in my native language (Telugu) and seed them.
Do we need people to learn about seeding and ratios? Definitely. But I believe in
Today’s leechers are tomorrow’s seeders.
And don’t blame them.
Don’t worry, it will stall at 99.9% forever
I hate how relatable this is.
as a protonvpn user i can’t seed even if i want to :/
worst thing: if i turn off my vpn i’ll be abt. 2000€ poorer
switching to mullvad soon
I honestly don’t understand your comparison of providers… Proton has port forwarding (with all paid packages afaik) which Mullvad discontinued? Is there something I’m missing?
i can definitely seed with proton, though ive been using a seedbox fos everything recently
Yeah, I’m on Proton with a port forwarded, no problem at all seeding, which is why I’m confused… I moved to Proton to get forwarding after Mullvad dropped it.
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I don’t know about you guys, but I set mine to stop seeding at a 2.0 ratio. Give more than you get. That’s the way I think it should be.
A better way is to just limit connections and upload speed and seed forever. If your total connections is like 25 and your max upload is like 100 KB/ps, it doesn’t affect your internet or anything although you should use a VPN and stuff, and it helps to keep those files out there with a complete source for a long time.
Depends on the torrent tbh, if it has loads of seeders already i don’t really care.
The more seeders, the likelier I’ll probably give 2.0.
But I’ll keep everything seeded as long as I have storage available.True, unless you’re the only one seeding a particular thing. It’s good to keep media alive and available, especially obscure stuff.
Valid, although I prefer the 24/7 seed to infinity method.
Why would you do that? We should all keep on seeding as long as possible.
Cause I don’t have infinite storage. My seedbox has 4TB.
but seeding more does not cost storage. why not let it seed until you delete it?
if it’s so that you can see which ones can you delete, just click on the ratio column to sort by that, and check which ones have a higher ratio
Because most people aren’t using the files as stored in the download folder. They’re renaming it, moving it to another folder, and deleting all the extra files. So you’d have to store it twice basically.
No.
Seedboxes just arent (usually) used as streaming servers.
So we fetch the downloads from the server and purge unpopular/non-important torrentsThis is one of the great things about the *arrs. They will create a hardlink to the file in your media folder structure so that you can keep seeding and have a well organized/named media library without wasting storage.
Prior to that, I also just saved my torrents directly to my media library, and used the torrent manager to rename the local file properly. Same thing effectively, just a lil more work.
As the other comment says, use hardlinks and then you can have several copies of the file across the same partition all reference the same file, using just the storage space needed for one copy of the file. Still RAR files will need to be extracted first, so those would require just about twice the file size, but hopefully people stop using rar, so that’s not a concern.
My media server is not the same as my seed box.
I’m guessing your seedbox is always on?
So why not use a shared folder?
If you’re copying a file to another server there’s still no reason to delete it on the seedbox until you have to.
Here’s a tip: after moving the folder (idk if this counts after renaming a folder or file, probably doesn’t), go into your torrent client and click Force Recheck on the torrent. it’ll recheck everything and continue seeding the file.
Isn’t that what streamio effectively does?
Yep. And that’s why I hate those users. Damn leeches
I do think this is the real issue, these programs like Kodi and stremio do exactly that.
Maybe one day ProtonVPN will fix their port-forwarding for their configuration files, I haven’t seen anyone else complain about this and their support is oblivious that this function even exists.
For people wondering the Learn More link just tells you what port forwarding does.
Looking at the docs, it seems like that toggle enables UPnP, so the rest of the setup should be on the torrent client to announce that it needs an external port, and the VPN and torrent client should handle things from there. Maybe you can lookup the docs for your torrent client and see if there’s anything extra to use UPnP?
I mean I’ll give it a try, their support flat out said they don’t support port forwarding for WireGuard configs which is why I never used the feature, but if it’s truly using UPnP than it may be worth a shot!
As for router setups, the Port Forwarding feature is unfortunately not yet officially tested and supported, therefore, I will be unable to provide any specific steps for setting it up and creating a port mapping on your Asus router, nor guarantee that this specific scenario would work as intended. Our team will consider testing it on router setups as well in the future, however, at this moment, I am unable to provide any specific time-frames or further details. I apologize for the inconvenience that this may cause you.
Edit: https://protonvpn.com/support/port-forwarding-manual-setup#wireguard looks promising!
I have given up on proton. My subscription is ending soon and I’ll be switching to airvpn
Can you nmap to find it as a workaround? Just thinking out loud, never fiddled with it directly.
god i even hate pausing seeding for even an hour cause i’m like BUT WHAT IF SOMEONE WANTS IT???
you’re the hero we don’t deserve
I would seed if people ever used me. I only have so much space, and everytime I try to seed, there’s either nobody downloading, or theirs a hundred other seeders.
Have you checked if you have the port used by your torrent software forwarded?
No one wants my seed.
Personally I enjoy seeing the numbers go up. Looking at the current top ten by ratio according to my torrent client most of them are obscure things that I’m probably the only one seeding — but the number one spot, at a ratio of 565, goes to “Shrek (2001) [1080p]”.
Eh, mine’s
linuxmint-20-cinnamon-64bitMine is a odd Xbox torrent with like a 39 ratio. Everything else is like a 2.5 or 3 ratio max.
Damn, I am only at a ratio of like 10 from some season packs of Chuck and The Mentalist. 565 is crazy!
I was over 900 on several torrents before switching clients about a year ago. I have a few in the 300s now.
just had a silly idea: stopping your torrent right as it starts to seed (to avoid ISP letters) is like pulling out as a form of birth control
Yeah, but you still seed while you download
Meta’s legal defense was that they limited seeding to a minimal value as a precaution when they pirated terabytes of books. Of course, I don’t expect the same ruling would be granted to an individual… Shit is fucked.
So they downloaded it all to train their models and didn’t even seed back!?
Yes, beacuse that would be distribution of copyrighted materials…
Digital pre-cum.
How do I delete someone else’s comment?
JFC people, use protection
you mean a VPN ?
yes
Coitus interruptus
One of the few latin expression I memorized, because that’s how the Catholic Church calls it since that’s their recommended “contraception” method, all of which I find hilarious.
Has the law in any jurisdiction determined that sharing some small fraction of bits is equivalent to sharing an entire series of bits? And how do they determine that? Like I’m sending 1s and 0s right now. Is that a violation?
Did a little digging around. It looks like they manage to get discovery judgments all the time over partial downloads, but I don’t see them actually taking anyone to court for anything less than a full file.
Once you have the entire file available, it’s hard to shimmy around the distribution claims. Wouldn’t it be super effing interesting if everyone’s torrent client specifically picked a random block and refused to give it to anyone?
I’m not sure it would hold up in court, but it would be interesting.
I mean, at that point everything is legal if we pretend to just send “random” 0s and 1s
But there must be some kind of burden of proof, right? If I leech 0.001% of a file, have I really pirated that file? If yes, then how small does the amount go? If no, then how large does it go? Or if they have to prove intent, well then that can go to trial…
The law is whatever the judge says it is. You could have undeniable proof of your innocence and still get convicted.
In the piratebay trial, just announcing the hashes was bad enough for a conviction
I mean, that’s kind of what encrypted traffic looks like to anyone without the private key
That’s… not how it works. A law firm rep (usually) just has to connect to the swarm and see what IPs are there. It matters not if you share, being in the swarm is enough for them to send your ISP a notice of infringement. So as others said, use protection.
There are clients with a “stop seeding” button that works prior to finishing the download. Just sayin’. Still seeds while it’s active, but stops right after.
This is how you end up with a 99.7% completed gzip of bob Dylan’s entire catalog and have to restart on a new, uncompressed stream that’s 10x larger
Fortunately the significantly improved download speed from the 6 heroic always-online seeders mitigated your concerns somewhat. But where were they before?
I seed EVERYTHING until i run out of space. Qbitorrent doesn’t like me having .torrent files in more than one drive, so i’m limited to my 14TB. But i have dozens of torrents that i’m only one of 2 or 3 people seeding it, so those help me upload hundreds of GB’s with my terrible connection.
Also i’m on a private tracker, so leaving them seeding helps your ratio, even if you don’t actually upload anything. They just try to encourage new people to seed and that is awesome.
Trying to keep a public torrent alive is hard work, but someone has to do it.
Back when I had VDSL and even ADSL, I’d try to hit 1.1 ratio because if everyone did that the risk of information being lost would be close to 0%. Nowadays with gigabit internet, all that prevents me from seeding is hard drive space, and 8 TB doesn’t fill up quickly with how few good movies and series there are these days. I guess that’s one way to stop piracy, just make fewer and worse series/movies.
“Good” is in the eye of the beholder. Have you considered that the quality hasn’t changed much, but instead you’ve become more discerning as you age? I certainly have far less tolerance for the stupid shit I used to think was funny long ago.
I get that. I used to think The Big Bang Theory was funny
*shudder*Depends on the comparison. Better than sitting in silence, worse than touching grass.
I think I would rather watch paint dry than The Big Bang Theory tbh
[Laugh Track]
Now now, how can you possibly experience the satisfaction of having cleansed yourself of cringe after-the-fact from watching paint dry?
Same
Yeah, I’m aware of that. And if I liked copoganda I’d be swimming in shows. That’s just getting older I guess.
There’s so much good shit on TV, and at least half of it doesn’t involve cops.
at least half of it doesn’t involve cops.
I like how safe you’re playing that estimate 😂
Good definitely is subjective. I have Robot Jox in my library and it won’t be deleted until I’ve left this mortal coil.
I heard Crash and Burn won’t be deleted either.
Somehow I forgot about that one. I don’t think I ever saw it.
Theoretical sequel, fun to watch if you like 90s post-apocalyptic thriller scifi, although there’s barely any mecha in it.
Never mind then. The bots were the draw in the original. That and, of course, the acting!
The acting’s.not bad for a B movie.
Like no longer thinking Bio Dome is comedy genius
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
How dare you ! Poly shore is a national treasure !
That was fun back in the day when movie studios blamed piracy for their movie performing badly, so someone checked and their movie was barely present or downloaded on the high seas.
Unfortunately BitTorrent clients are kinda messy and don’t make it easy to maintain a long term seeding library. I’ve moved to qbittorrent which is a bit better than Deluge on that regard, but it’s still not great.
Yeah, they are messy. I tried BiglyBT a few years back, and while I love a lot of features, I think that was overkill for sure. qBittorrent is the golden standard at the moment for sure.
Also I don’t understand the upload torrents limit, ok, limit concurrent uploads, but everything I’m seeding should be available all the time
That’s one (of many) reason I’m glad I switched to linux, Back in windows xp days Microsoft tried limiting the amount of “half-open connections” for its users “security”. But even today, some routers just aren’t powerful enough to handle too many connections, and often times the cheap routers that ISP’s provide are limited on purpose either by custom firmware or just by hardware limitations.
How many torrents do you have??? I seed over 7000 torrents concurrently using qbittorrent
I’ve about 2k, but I’ve had to adjust the weird defaults
Is your issue that it’s hard to move files around without breaking seeding, or something else?
Well, that’s an issue for sure, but in my case it’s just that when you have thousands of torrents seeding it’s hard to keep them organised and navigate them, labels help but not much, essentially my bittorrent client is a bucket of shared files, reviewing what I have, deleting and moving is a hassle.
I used to use Deluge as well but have been really happy with Transmission for years now
