By Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib

E: Please read the article before commenting.

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      The last line absolutely nails it:

      “The best way to undermine Hamas’s position is to instead flood Gaza with food, and to alleviate the suffering of its people.”

      So why doesn’t Israel do it? If that would undermine Hamas’ position, why is Israel maintaining the supply blockade they started back in the 90s?

      Why is Israel intent on shooting people lining up for aid, including children, if that just re-enforces the negative opinion Hamas wants everyone to have about Israel?

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/uns-world-food-program-says-israeli-tanks-and-snipers-opened-fire-on-a-crowd-seeking-aid-in-gaza

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-strikes-kill-at-least-20-and-wound-hundreds-in-gaza-health-officials-say

      That’s not Hamas doing that, it’s Israel doing that.

      Israel’s typical over-reaction to October 7th is what Hamas wanted, and Israel played into it. They chose to commit genocide, murder tens of thousands of innocent people, and used snipers to shoot children in the head and heart.

      https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_snipers_target_palestinian_children_in_gaza

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war

      https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/tête-à-tête/20241029-us-doctor-claims-israeli-snipers-target-child-in-gaza-no-child-gets-shot-twice-by-mistakea

      “The doctor went on to claim that Israeli snipers are deliberately shooting children in Gaza, citing his observation of two children who were shot twice. “No child gets shot twice by mistake,” he said.”

      That’s not Hamas. That’s a deliberate choice made by Israel. They could stop today. They will not, but they absolutely could.

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        The best way to undermine Hamas’s position is to end occupation and let israeli and palestininas punish their war criminals

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        Israel (or more precisely it’s PM and his clique) is definitely interested in prolonging the war, the same as Hamas. One can’t talk of one without the other. There werr some materials floating around that at some point Israel “sponsored” Hamas the same as US sponsored middle east terrorist groups just to be attacked by them later.

        Keeping state of constant war is a very lucrative endeavour - you can shatter liberties, you can subject population to virtually anything claiming “war time” and rake profits from arms trade etc. While raiding humanitarian aid warehouses etc. It’s a very dirty business. Hamas needs to be disarmed and disbanded, Netaniahu has to be deposed and persecuted, Palestine should be it’s own state and Israeli need to return what’s not really theirs. But none of the homicidal entities is willing to be persecuted thus this war will continue until one of them destroyed or reformed

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        The article says that Hamas wants Israel to starve Gazans, it doesn’t say that Israel doesn’t starve Gazans.

        It literally says Israel uses hunger as weapon (against Hamas and against –or at least not caring about– civilians): “Hamas has benefited from Israel’s decision to use food as a lever against the terror group, because the catastrophic conditions for civilians have generated an international outcry, which is worsening Israel’s global standing and forcing it to reverse course.”

        E: You partly approve the article yourself and I’m aware of the fact it’s Israel committing the genocide.

        Not I nor the article have said that Israel isn’t committing genocide. The only thing said is that Hamas profits by it and that Gazans are furious about looters and the Hamas. I don’t understand why so many people downvote this, claim I would be paid, claim I would deny the genocide or write 6 comments where 1 would be enough, if not you want to deny Hamas is a terrorist organization which only cares about its own survival.

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          So why did Hamas agree to a ceasefire in March which Israel broke?

          Why is Hamas bending over to accept ceasefire conditions? You are spreading Zionist blood libel and genocide propaganda.

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            If you read the article –which you denied to do– you would have come across this passage: “In recent days, I’ve spoken with dozens of Gazans who are furious about what is unfolding around them. They are angry, one told me, at the “hordes of selfish people who are attacking aid convoys to steal and collect aid in a horrific manner without caring for Gazans who chose not to participate in these humiliating and demeaning displays of inhumanity, no matter the level of hunger.” But their anger is directed primarily at Hamas, which they hold responsible for putting the people of Gaza in this position, and for its continued refusal to end the war that it started. “Hitler fought in his bunker until he killed himself in World War II in the Battle of Berlin,” another person said, complaining that Hamas is hunkered down in its tunnels, willing to see Gaza destroyed to the very last child.”

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              You can also interview dozens of palestinians who blame only israel. Palestinians are not a monolith

              I already give you sources that show that it was israeli supported gangs who stole the aids and also isrseli extremists destroying it or blocking

              It’s so atrocious to compare certain palestinians to hitler yes even those who commited terrorism as retaliation for 57 years of brutal occupation.

              The only real comparison with hitler is Netenyahu

              It’s hamas who offered returning the hostages in exchange to end of the genocide yet you keep blaming them for what israel started and false claiming that they want gaza to be completely destroyed

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                Lol, it’s some Gazans comparing Hitler and Hamas. But that’s not the topic.

                I already said it’s Israel commiting the genocide, you don’t have to act like I hadn’t.

                It still say Hamas is only interested in its own survival, which you can see when having a look at its history. Now there are first voices in Gaza which claim that the Hamas profits by Israel using hunger as weapon, which the article used as headline.

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                  No, it’s zionists talking point to compare palestine to nazi germany to justify israel genocide.

                  What kind of of bs is this that israel is commiting genocide but it is hamas the reason that it happened and not israel and zionism who say the whole land is israeli

                  Hamas history show that they only comited attrcoties in response to israeli attrocities. Hamas don’t simply throw rockets for fun they do it when israel kick out palestinians for their houses or when the settlers attack palestinians. Once palestine is free we could bring hamas leadership who alive to justice.

                  Look at how tbe biggest part of palestinians still oppose hamas destruction and dropping arms

                  When asked whether it supports or opposes the disarmament of Hamas in the Gaza Strip in order to stop the war on the Gaza Strip, an overwhelming majority (85% in the West Bank and 64% in the Gaza Strip) said it is opposed to that; only 18% support it.

                  https://pcpsr.org/en/node

                  This is not just a dozen of palestinians cherry picked by the israeli asset who wrote this article

                  https://youtu.be/7E8JJUnFNo4?t=1385

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                    That hitler-comparsion literally was a quote of Gazans. I tried to discuss this topic with you, even though I dont have good experiences with discussing topics with 2wo accounts and even though you don’t want to read the article and spammed my inbox and repeatedly twisted my words, which you now did again by saying I said Hamas were the reason for Israel’s genocide. Now you’re talking about making the repressive, antisemitic, Islamist, misogynistic, LGBTQ±hostile terrorist organization Hamas a government. I don’t think I’m able to discuss anything with you among these circumstances.

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              They are angry, one told me, at the “hordes of selfish people who are attacking aid convoys to steal and collect aid in a horrific manner without caring for Gazans who chose not to participate in these humiliating and demeaning displays of inhumanity, no matter the level of hunger.”

              Starving desperate people will do anything to survive. That’s basic survival instinct.

              Stop spreading Israeli propaganda trying to make the victims out to be the bad guys.