What exactly is the cooperation that Signal was doing beforehand? Signal claims to collect very little data so I’m not sure how exactly they help?
Russia was caught running a bunch of side channel and phishing attacks using malicious QR codes. Presumably signal could help track these patterns in terms of time and place, to help isolate where espionage activity was occuring.
Except Signal should not have that data. They claim they do not log that information, so it should be impossible for them to do that.
Unless signal is lying, that’s not something they can do.
First off, Signal hasn’t said anything, this is an accusation made at a conference in Kyiv. So - who knows, they’re behind, they don’t have billions to support an army, who knows.
IF they have chosen to not help Ukraine where at all possible, that would be bad.
All of that said, if I was running a modern army using an encrypted chat app, I’d fucking have all that shit in-house, wtf. It’s 2025. Ukraine already has a bunch of l337 h4X0rs. I’m sure they could slap something together in days and have it in the field in weeks.
Simplex is probably ready now. It’s self-hostable, and has strong encryption.
Moreover, its not like Ukraine hasnt been pushing for localized tech stack since at least 2016-2018 ish.
Yeah they are slowly moving to matrix afaik
not to mention the Signal protocol is open source so they could literally build something in days and ensure the same encryption
Maintaining and testing such an app has costs and risks. They may think it’s more secure that signal does this. It is also harder to attack all of signal.
They are also significantly resource constrained, everything they have goes towards defence. The effort building the app could be deployed on developing weapon systems they can’t buy.
Your right nations should have their own independent systems for secure communications for military, politicians and civil service.
The app?
Yes.
Damn… Hmm are they part of the US government?
The article explains everything. The gist is Russians are targeting Ukrainians with phishing attacks via Signal. There also is the suggestion they’re exploiting the linked devices functionality, though I’m not sure how.
Appreciate this, I don’t click links lol
Apparently if they can get you to scan some bogus qr code they can get you add their device to your account.
Why signal not cooperating tho? Following us government?
Because they can’t without backdooring the software? Just like they also refuse to co-operate with Swedish government and threatened to leave the market should Sweden try to force them.
You know Russian spies can also use TOR onion routing and so on.
As for phishing there is nothing Signal can do about someone scanning a signal contact sharing QR and adding it to their contracts list beyond informative “hey are you really sure, really really sure you want to add this contact”. If user trusts someone they shouldn’t, no amount of app policy protections help. Or maybe they manage to shish them to scan and approve “share account to another device”. Again nothing Signal can do about that.
Ok, they had choice to use Jami, app independent of anyone, but they chose centralization…
bye bye signal just deleted it.
don’t need to support a pro kremlin app
There’s a whole ocean between ‘a single (biased) source claims Signal have stopped responding to requests for cybercrime assistance’ and ‘Signal is a pro-Kremlin app’.
