You really don’t see the risk of having no data centers you actually control as an organization?

This really depends on what you think you’re getting from having your own DC. Is it reliability? Flexibility? Control? What are your objectives?

There’s some argument to be made to have some locally hosted stuff for some flexibility and control. And in some niche cases the pricing of public offerings doesn’t make sense.

But as I said, if you’re building your own data center for increased reliability then 1) you’re necessarily assuming the premise that you’re going to be better at managing DCs than Google, Microsoft and AWS which I think in reality would be hard to prove let alone do, and 2) is hard to justify considering you can distribute workloads across multiple data centers already (as proven by the Netflix example) so that your reliability isn’t limited by any one vendor.

You’re kind of proving (part of) my point?

How? Their reliability would exist without that. There’s nothing inherent to their own data center that makes their setup that much better. Having a distributed system across multiple cloud service providers means your actual chance of downtime (here I mean inverse of uptime) is their individual chances of uptime multiplied by each other. In other words, they all have to go down for your service to fail. The catch is you have to use only commodity IaaS and PaaS, nothing proprietary to one CSP.

For smaller companies especially, in terms of pure reliability, there’s no reason to think that they would be better at running a high availability data center than Microsoft or AWS or Google.

Parallel distributed architectures give you the advantages of using public cloud (not having to physically manage your own data center) without the disadvantages (dependence on any one cloud vendor), while also potentially increasing your reliability beyond the reliability of any one of your cloud vendors . That is why Netflix is so rock solid.

If we want a truly robust system, yeah, we kinda do. This sort of event is only one of the issues with allowing a single entity to control pretty much everything.

What I’m advocating for is the opposite of “allowing one entity to control everything”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_engineering#Chaos_Monkey

Read about it dude. Netflix has a large presence in all major cloud providers (and they have their own data centers), but has a service whose uptime is NOT dependent on any one of those hosting environments. The proof is the pudding - Netflix service did not go down in the recent AWS outage, nor in the last one.

All of that can be achieved WITHOUT completely abandoning public cloud services and having to completely host all of the hardware for their services.

We don’t have to. It is entirely possible to engineer applications and services in a way that they’re not dependent on any one cloud service, while also using cloud services for IaaS. Netflix famously does this, and sure enough Netflix experience no service interruptions during this latest outage despite having a large AWS presence.

But nah, they’ll just shove AI into everything blow the equivalent of Wikipedia’s annual budget in a week on just electricity to shove unwanted AI slop into people’s faces.

You’re off my several order of magnitude unfortunately. Tech giants are spending the equivalent of the entire fucking Apollo program on various AI investments every year at this point.

I mean this thread is about tech that was perfect from it’s inception to the point where it didn’t or barely improved. Nothing could be further from the truth, transistor tech has had literally trillions of dollars and millions of smart people’s careers poured into it, and semiconductor IC manufacturing is now the most complicated single activity that our species does.

So whether he TACO out or not doesn’t really matter for the harm he is doing in the meantime.

The disruptions and chaos are the only the worst part of this because everyone knows he will back down. Otherwise Chinese trade embargo itself would be far worse. If he actually did this the stock market would crash instead of just a hiccup, and the entire economy wouldn’t be far behind. So it absolutely matters whether he chickens out or not.

China and everyone else I think knows that this is just another round of market manipulation. He will back down since 130 percent tariffs are effectively a trade embargo and the US is still not positioned to be able to do that without economic calamity.

So the question is when he will back down and how. I think the same trick will work. He will implement it, do a whole song and dance about how he super duper means it this time, do a few other things to tank the stock market, and then he and his insiders will make big buys before backing down on everything.

Well if you don’t it means you didn’t squint hard enough.

Cool now go ask an Estonian lol

Sorry I meant laser

Inkjets are actually really fascinating technology. If you squint a little it’s like a CRT monitor that sprays ink instead of electrons. But for the average consumer they’re just not worth it except in niche situations. I have a black and white inkjetlaser printer. I printed a page for the first time in 7 months yesterday. It printed perfectly the first time. No print heads to clean, no dried ink, nothing. It just works. Hard to compete with that.

You’re still describing Russia bruh.

Books were among the first things to be pirated and are still among the easiest because the amount of data is so small. People we’re doing that on dial up Internet.

Just dig up an old laptop and setup the full *arr stack with jellyfin. Takes some work up front but after that it’s basically painless.

The limit is when people stop rewarding this behaviour by giving them money. So yeah no sign of hitting it.

Chinese government sanctioned groups can and will still access the broader internet.

They imagine themselves as the Titans from the Dune universe.

Is any of our current AI tech even making significant strides towards achieving this? I really don’t think the current crop or billionaires will live to see this being viable even if they live another 100 years.

The project is real, but it’s a mismanaged catastrophe.

It’s basically what happens when you have a project with overly understanding financiers, an overly ambitious creative head, and absolutely no concern whatsoever for avoiding scope creep.

Kind of amazing really. I can imagine in centuries past an architect becoming the personal favourite of a king so he just keeps making the palace he’s tasked to build more and more extravagant since the king keeps giving him more money endlessly.

I have a really old account from man years ago (probably payed $50ish for it). I want the same experience - just mostly vibing around in a ship.

Sometime during covid I had time on my hands so I installed it, logged back in. Tried to get into my ship and a glitched basically got me stuck in the door of the ship. Also couldn’t die. Just stuck there . Restarted the game and tried again. Got stuck in the same spot.

Closed the game and uninstalled. I’ll check back in a few more years lol.