Evolution being just a little bit clunky is a massive improvement from the Gnome 2 and early Gnome 3 days, for what it’s worth.

Thanks, I’ll have to sit my ass at my desk so I can try it again. I wonder if there’s much delta between what you’re using and the beta I’m on from Extra. Though it does look like there are some new betas in Extra-Testing.

I’ll need to give tiling another try, I started using alpha 5 back in January and there were some pretty nasty bugs in tiling mode back then that made me think maybe a memory leak or something. After 15-20 minutes performance would get horrible until switching back to floating, though I’m fuzzy on the details.

Is there any capability to leave an open space? Honestly, I like tiling more for the orderliness above and beyond snapping than the dynamism. Aaaaaand that’s reminding me why I was looking at building out a LabWC environment, it has configurable snap zones.

I started dabbling in around 2000, getting sick of the instability of Windows, and it seeming like the next logical step of geekdom.

I tried a LOT of distros. Mandrake, Connectiva, Red Hat to Fedora Core, Slackware, Debian Woody, Crux, etc etc. I drifted in a Debian-centric circle until I finally landed on Arch. Lost my way for a bit during my IT career, supporting Windows I ended up just using that. But I’m back to Arch now as my daily, Debian for some networking projects, and a bit of Fedora from time to time when I need to spin something up quick.

Not really for the purpose of this thread, since pretty much anything can do what OP is asking, but any idea how the Juno Tab compares to the Starlabs Starlite in regards to build quality, cooling, and what not? I noticed the other day that the Starlite has been updated with an N350 CPU. Though it is up to a $765 starting price…

Once or twice a year I start thinking it would be nice to have a tablet. Then within a month I wonder wtf I want a tablet for.

Is it offering SMS? I ported to jmp.chat recently, using their XMPP gateway for voice and SMS. They offer a VOIP option, but don’t support SMS.

I like being able to SMS, and I guess call, from my laptop. But there aren’t any Linux XMPP clients that I’m particularly happy with, so I’m just using Cheogram in Waydroid. It’s not exactly optimal.

I imagine it would be the likes of Graphene, Lineage, Calyx, and some others at the core. Probably some hardware vendors like Fairphone, Shiftphone, and probably a Xiaomi or Huawei.

Edit: ROMs maintain their own code base, but I’m pretty sure OP was talking about a larger fork of AOSP. That’s what I’ve suggested recently, anyway.

I know, but this stuff is adding up where Pixels might stop being the golden child of the custom OS market.

And massive propaganda campaigns are turning people’s civic energy back on themselves, and their own communities. Ain’t life grand?

It’s probably not a good idea to believe that. Even if they do fight for you behind closed doors, which I doubt, they will still have to bow to large governments for the sake of their shareholders. That’s the world we live in right now.

I’m on Graphene on a Pixel 8 right now, but I really don’t trust the overall direction that Google is pulling AOSP, nor the closed security chip in Pixel phones. I’m trying to decide if I want to stick with AOSP with a non-Pixel device, or give some form of non-Android Linux phone a shot. The Jolla C2 is looking intriguing, but getting one in the US isn’t the easiest thing. I’ve also considered a Shiftphone 8.1 and Fairphone 6, but I’d want to run Calyx, and the future is murky. The Shiftphone is also tricky to get in the US, as is Volla which comes with an AOSP OS without Google services.

Maybe they could make some similar arrangement with Shiftphone.

Man, I hope so. I’m on Graphene for now, but I’d like to move away from Pixel devices.

A security chip is great if you know what it’s doing, but we really have no idea what Titan might be doing in the background. And Google is becoming more and more abusive to the FOSS community.

I’m seriously considering trying to import a Jolla C2. I ported my number to jmp.chat, so as long as I can run Cheogram or some other XMPP client that handles the PSTN gateway well, I honestly don’t even care much about cellular connectivity anymore. My phone is basically a wifi phone with Signal, downloaded maps, authenticator app, and my music at this point.

Agreed, though if it weren’t for tariffs it wouldn’t be too expensive to ship from the likes of Clove Technologies. If the extra cost were going to Calyx instead of Murena I might pull the trigger.

Shift and Volla are closer than Nothing, I’d say. OnePlus, like you said in another comment, belongs nowhere near that list anymore.

But I have a feeling privacy and security minded folks are going to be moving more towards Linux phones (I know Android uses a Linux kernel) over the next few years, as Android continues to get locked down, and cater to government surveillance.

Just to note, Calyx currently has a questionable future, and at best has frozen new installations while they work out new signing keys after some developers left the project. My understanding is that there will be one or no further updates to anyone that has a current installation, and a fresh install will be required if they do continue development.

Unfortunately, I think the vast majority who care are already using one. However, with Google device tree and other shenanigans on Pixel devices, it probably makes substantial room within the niche market for the likes of Fairphone and Shiftphone to get into new regions.

On the other hand, mandates for major operating systems to report illegal activity that are in the pipeline could have a larger effect.

I dunno, I’m talking out my ass.

Is it still relying on Halium?

Edit: It seems it does use Halium

https://liliputing.com/flx1s-is-a-new-linux-phone-thats-mostly-a-downgrade-from-the-flx1/

I think I’ll keep looking into importing a Jolla C2.

Yeah, I think that’s my backup plan is to get some powered speakers and Pi’s to run Snapcast. But it adds a lot of complexity, and more power requirements at the speaker. On the other hand, it’s more hackable than a speaker running a specific piece of software directly, without any real alternatives like I would get with a Pi. Thanks!

Oh no, I know. I’m just limited to wireless right now because I’m renting an old house with massive amounts of insulation. So I had tried to get the Sonos speakers working with a combined sink wirelessly, but it just wasn’t able to keep up, leading to intermittent interruptions to the stream. I’m going to play with that wired in a test environment at some point, but I think I’d prefer something like Snapcast over Airplay.

But once I buy a house in the coming months, I’ll do some low voltage runs to support the audio network, among other things. I figure I’ll probably have a dedicated POE switch so I don’t have to worry too much about QoS, probably Mikrotik if Ubiquiti doesn’t release some new EdgeSwitch gear.

I’m just not sure if the software is there yet, with Pipewire AES67 support. It was “new” in v1, with I think some PTP patching in the first point release. So I’m trying to see if anyone has cut their teeth on this yet, since it’s going to be pretty costly to get gear. I imagine I can just create a combined sink, but I’m not sure if PTPv2 is just automagic within the RTP configuration of Pipewire.

And potentially needing a second server for MPD/Pipewire is something I’m keeping in the back of my head. I’m hoping to run it in a container on the NAS server, probably running Debian (or maybe something more cutting edge if I’m reliant on new Pipewire releases). But RTP and PTP might need something a bit more dedicated to the task. It’s not like I’m doing broadcast or some other form of professional audio here, so I’m optimistic that a container will be fine. Just a single 16/44 FLAC decode to combined AES67 sink. And since containers use a shared kernel, I wouldn’t need to worry about the clock scheduling issues some hypervisors had with Asterisk and Free Switch in my previous life working on VOIP networks. But I’m also not planning on a ton of cores, 4-8 only in a low voltage CPU, sooooo… I dunno.

Well, right now I don’t really have a setup. I bought the Sonos speakers when I was experimenting with the Apple ecosystem a few years ago, but now that I’m fully back on Graphene/Linux they haven’t been worth the trouble. I don’t have an audio server yet, I’m just storing on my laptop and playing locally to headphones/XLR Genelecs using Quod Libet.

What I’ll end up with is probably a home built NAS running stuff like MPD and Home Assistant in containers. I’ll have either a VLAN or dedicated switch for audio.

The Genelecs I’m looking at for AES67 stuffs are the Smart IP Installation series like this 4410a. I’m pretty sure these are full audio-over-IP using AES67/Dante, and not using IP only for control. Unless Genelec documentation on these sucks. If they were to require XLR, I’d choose a different speaker that does not, or run structural audio cables to a multi-zone receiver.