FuglyDuck

Ridiculous. A cluster munition covers a whole area with shrapnel indiscriminately. Tiny bombs carried by targets are a whole different category both as a weapon and effects wise.

The ordinance in a cluster munition is called a bomblet. It’s called a bomblet because it’s a tiny bomb

And like a cluster munition, the pager has caused indiscriminate shrapnel across an entire city.

Hamas has indiscriminately slaughtered civilians on October 7th and fires unguided rockets at inhabited areas. Hezbollah fires rockets into Israel constantly and indiscriminately, killing Druze children playing outside.

The whole reason Israel did this attack is because Hezbollah just doesn’t want to stop attacking Israeli civilians.

the whole reason hamas did the attack was because of apartheid conditions in Gaza.

You attack them, they attack you, you attack them, round and round it goes until there’s nobody left to attack.

And yes. Israeli paramilitaries started the current cycle of violence with the Nakba. I’m tired of the bullshit. Aren’t you?

There’s no world war 3. Israel gets hated on and condemned every time they defend themselves against terrorists attacking their cities.

Didn’t say there was . I said “if”, with the hypothetical that roles were reversed.

Are you really saying that’s not true?

You act like there moral superiority. There is none. Your response to a terrorist attack is to genocide a people.

Which, to be perfectly blunt, is the reason people are being critical of (not hating in my case,) the Israeli government. Because they’re doing a genocide.

And the reason I’m critical of you? You’re defending genocide.

Even if you take the assumption for granted, no. They did not know any such thing. At all.

First off, lets talk about the assumption- that the pager was issued to, and in the possession off, a hezbollah member.

That’s it. That’s as far as they “knew”, and it’s really just an assumption. For all mossad knew, a few got passed around to friends or family. You know. “For their safety”, or something.

Now onto how there was no knowledge of where those IEDs were physically located. Pagers are passive receivers. The pager network sends a signal, then pagers receive it and display a number or whatever.

They don’t always do two-way communication, and given their reason for buying them… I doubt these are. Which means the pagers are entirely passive and probably would work over most the globe. As long as the pager (which is the receiver) is in range of its broadcast tower network (which probably includes satellites,) then they work.

There’s a reason they’re used by emergency services, and it’s that drop-dead-simplicity and reliability.

So no. Mossad or whoever did not know where rhe fucking bombs were. All they knew was that they were likely to be physically near targets of interest.

But they had know way of knowing who had which pager (probably.) or where that pager was, or who else was around that pager.

In short this is as indiscriminate as Russia’s use of cluster munitions on cities. It’s absolutely terrorism.

We’d be starting WW 3 if hezbollah or hamas did this to Israel. So why are we tolerating this from Israel?

it wasn’t though.

they deliberately set off an explosive device with no notion as to where that device or who else it was around. This was a deliberate act, and the way their using them, the chaos and “collateral damage” isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

So that’s justification to kill her?

The 10 year old girl was Hezbolah?

Lake Superior is deep enough. but it’s cold enough the corpse won’t go away anytime soon.

I imagine you can fit a wood chipper into a boat and then take care of all the problems that way.

Start with a wood chipper.

Saw that in a movie once.

Escalating down his ass might be more efficient?

“the USS Linertybwas just an accident, too. They didn’t mean it. Chill out bro. It’s all just a joke, bro.”

-Netanyahu, maybe.

Shut up and do it ya morally defunct crumpet.

Also, maybe divert shipments from Israel to Ukraine.

That too. We really need to end Citizens United and get rid of foreign-interest money.

And Biden is gonna do it.

Cuz you know. 4 million in campaign donations over the years buys a lot of loyalty.

can’t. they’re maiden-less.

Sure.

Which is why I prefaced my original comment as “as an American…”

I’d suggest, however, that that has way more to do with gun laws than a lack of assholes.

He is a far right political extremist. (Right or left doesn’t really matter here, only that he’s politically extreme.)

He’s also religiously conservative.

He was terminated for harassing a trans (or non binary?) kid.

He was presumably told to not return. He returned anyhow, or there was otherwise sufficient cause for a court to order him not to return.

Be returned anyway.

I’m saying this guy is a walking rack of red flags all of which suggest his attempt to gain entry wasn’t for peaceful purposes.

Not yet.

Many people who become active shooters will scout their targets before hand. especially, when they’re adults.

As an American…

I’m thinking Peterson never shot any where up so this guy is going a bit beyond that.

He returned to a place where he was terminated from a job for being an asshole.

I hope somebody is checking to make sure he’s not planing something violent.

You’d think.

But Biden is still gargling those balls; and still hasn’t stopped weapons shipments.

Guess 4.2 million . Is a lot of loyalty.

not to mention MBFC is itself biased.

everybody is. Every human. everything humans create, all has a bias. Worse… that might not even matter because their process has got to basically be “we do a spot check of articles to make sure they’re factually accurate and then we fit them where we thing they fall on the US political spectrum”

The reality is there’s no way to know how thorough they actually are, and for most publications- even “small” publications- it’s a bit of a joke to think five to ten articles is enough to determine reliability. other similar groups like Allsides and Ad Fontes have hundreds of employees/contractors reviewing outlets and their analysis is still remarkably circumspect.

MBFC has nine employees, including the founder. Nine.

This isn’t argument for regulation social spaces.

This is me passing around the popcorn and watching Facebook go up in flames.

Zuck is being dementedly stupid here. That’s all I’m saying.