Hi, sorry that it took me so long to answer this one. Hmmm. I understand your point about the severance, but I need to underscore that even if it’s legal, it does not mean it is the right way to solve the situation. The severances are indiscriminate, not accounting really if the worker is good or not. And are motivated on ideologies much more than efficiency. For example, most of the “chainsaw” as he call his austerity measures, are done on the public healthcare system, public education system, and such. He is even withdrawing funding from Memory Sites (places where the 76’ dictatorship executed, tortured, raped, kidnapped the oposition).
But it is not cutting funding from the executive branches, legislative branches or judicial branches of the government, and also is trying to privatize many state-owned companies.
Just like the dictatorship did…
In case of the app thing, well, it is the second time it has done this.
Economically speaking there seems to be stability. Now, how much it will last, I can’t say. People are poorer now than in the last 20 years, prices still are skyhigh in much of the basic goods, at least in my understanding, and salaries have not matched yet the inflation the shock measures released. So workers are still losing economic power. Also, companies have more benefits (mostly not good for workers).
His agenda as I see it is selling the country to the highest bidder, basically. Being a Social Conservative, he just is a apathetic being who does not give a single flying fvck about those who are not in a comfortable position capable of resisting the measures. Nor he cares about upholding the Memory Thruth and Justice legacy we made this 40+ years. Hiis government is mostly composed of ex-neonazis, fascists, orthodox catholics (and surprisingly, orthodox jews in at least a few cases), anti-communist, etc.
The Vice-President is a woman. The daughter of a military men who refused to uphold democracy’s values and apologize for what the government did to the people during the “Dirty War”. A history revisionist who believes that the systematic kidnapping, torture, killing of the oposition, theft of newborns and rape commited by the state thugs, military, police, death squads were warranted in the fight against “subversion” and marxists.
This is my view, at least. Other Argentinians might differ slightly or more with me, and I’am a leftist, so bias might exist as with any other person. What i’m saying is not to discredit my opinion, but to help you grasp where i’m coming from. That is not to say I can’t be wrong.
Well, im sorry too for arriving late, my Lemmy app apparently stopped feeding me notifications until I manually logged on mi instance site, odd but I’m here now
Severance being done better is a good call but given the situation, what’s better than following the law that there was when he was established (and therefore did not dictate over) President? The thing is if said specific workers are given better escapes than what’s strictly legal and, on top of that cheapest it becomes analogous to the “Benefits of the Caste” he so much promised to go against, again voters mentioned they wanted exactly what he did, and anything better for them although clearly better for the individual civilian is also a contradiction of any other worker’s equality in terms of getting fired, just because they’re state contractors should they go with more than what’s established for everyone else? Is what I’m thinking without even accounting the wide range of accusations from citizenship about state workers being less than lawful (Which I have seen a lot)
Economic stability is a plus, being poorer now than in the last 20 years has almost been a constant for Argentina, it’s terrible that the chain has start at the top (corporations being benefited before workers) but given his projections at the assumption of the charge, it was expected and what follows should be the better for workers
he just is a apathetic being who does not give a single flying fvck about those who are not in a comfortable position capable of resisting the measures
I want to quote this specifically because IF I remember correctly, he did increase they government-aid for families to the double as soon as he got the charge, I think it was called “Asignacion Universal por Hijo” explicitly to help those in need for the upcoming changes, which was not well received on his supporting discussions I saw, yet still he did, so I’d rather believe that there is consideration for those people too
I’m aware of the background of the Vice-President, and I don’t have much compliments to make for her, as time has told she seems to be on the other side of the frame than Milei as she recently sought after increasing her own salary and other things Milei has been completely against since the beginning, I do think she’s very nationalist however, which seems to be something Argies can benefit from given her role on state defense. The atrocities of the military are not to be forgotten, but I personally do believe it is not their obligation to apologize for their blood
Thank you for the quick answer. Okay, so yesterday Milei attended the WEF conference at Davos where he denounced the “woke” agenda, compared homosexuality with children sexual abuse, defended Elon Musk who just a few days prior did a NAZI SALUTE on Trump’s Inauguration…
This has been a very weird week here in Argentina.
The atrocities of the military are not to be forgotten, but I personally do believe it is not their obligation to apologize for their blood
It is not that it is an obligation for her to apologize. She should not be trying to destroy 40 years of good policy making for remembrance by denying what the military did, what the context was.
I agree with you that the economic stability is good. Now, will it last? Are the circunstances good enough for the economy to re ignite itself? Because we have to take into account that we have a mostly frozen economy. We need to know if we can overstep the curve and get more job stability, less poverty. It is not that easy to do. He did got inflation to get as low as he could. Was it all he had to do? Not in the slightest, and those who payed for it were majorly common working class citizens.
Also, big companies have augmented their revenue a lot in this year.
Nevertheless, the point still stands on what will happen. That I’m not sure.
And I need to be abundantly clear, I’d love for the country to get better and de-stagnate. But I fear it could give rise to disproportionate amounts of power being redirected to the officialism party (which is composed of neo-nazis, genocide deniers, corporate leaders, flat earthers, religious maniacs) and violence being practiced in more physical ways to political opposition via legislative elections this week.
Democracy is the will of the people, but it shouldn’t be possible to make things undemocratic or give power to those who do not respect those institutions.
We will see. I hope i’m wrong.
It’s been a most constructive talk thus far, but i’m also leaning in towards “We’ll see” at this point, if we may meet again next year to further discuss progress i’ll gladly assist for I am also hoping for the best for the country.
It would be crazy to ask for you to keep this message on notifications for the rest of the year so if you don’t want I can do it instead with your next reply, until then i’ll keep my eyes open and for you in Argentina keep your face to the wind friend
Hi, sorry that it took me so long to answer this one. Hmmm. I understand your point about the severance, but I need to underscore that even if it’s legal, it does not mean it is the right way to solve the situation. The severances are indiscriminate, not accounting really if the worker is good or not. And are motivated on ideologies much more than efficiency. For example, most of the “chainsaw” as he call his austerity measures, are done on the public healthcare system, public education system, and such. He is even withdrawing funding from Memory Sites (places where the 76’ dictatorship executed, tortured, raped, kidnapped the oposition). But it is not cutting funding from the executive branches, legislative branches or judicial branches of the government, and also is trying to privatize many state-owned companies. Just like the dictatorship did…
In case of the app thing, well, it is the second time it has done this.
Economically speaking there seems to be stability. Now, how much it will last, I can’t say. People are poorer now than in the last 20 years, prices still are skyhigh in much of the basic goods, at least in my understanding, and salaries have not matched yet the inflation the shock measures released. So workers are still losing economic power. Also, companies have more benefits (mostly not good for workers).
His agenda as I see it is selling the country to the highest bidder, basically. Being a Social Conservative, he just is a apathetic being who does not give a single flying fvck about those who are not in a comfortable position capable of resisting the measures. Nor he cares about upholding the Memory Thruth and Justice legacy we made this 40+ years. Hiis government is mostly composed of ex-neonazis, fascists, orthodox catholics (and surprisingly, orthodox jews in at least a few cases), anti-communist, etc.
The Vice-President is a woman. The daughter of a military men who refused to uphold democracy’s values and apologize for what the government did to the people during the “Dirty War”. A history revisionist who believes that the systematic kidnapping, torture, killing of the oposition, theft of newborns and rape commited by the state thugs, military, police, death squads were warranted in the fight against “subversion” and marxists.
This is my view, at least. Other Argentinians might differ slightly or more with me, and I’am a leftist, so bias might exist as with any other person. What i’m saying is not to discredit my opinion, but to help you grasp where i’m coming from. That is not to say I can’t be wrong.
Well, im sorry too for arriving late, my Lemmy app apparently stopped feeding me notifications until I manually logged on mi instance site, odd but I’m here now
Severance being done better is a good call but given the situation, what’s better than following the law that there was when he was established (and therefore did not dictate over) President? The thing is if said specific workers are given better escapes than what’s strictly legal and, on top of that cheapest it becomes analogous to the “Benefits of the Caste” he so much promised to go against, again voters mentioned they wanted exactly what he did, and anything better for them although clearly better for the individual civilian is also a contradiction of any other worker’s equality in terms of getting fired, just because they’re state contractors should they go with more than what’s established for everyone else? Is what I’m thinking without even accounting the wide range of accusations from citizenship about state workers being less than lawful (Which I have seen a lot)
Economic stability is a plus, being poorer now than in the last 20 years has almost been a constant for Argentina, it’s terrible that the chain has start at the top (corporations being benefited before workers) but given his projections at the assumption of the charge, it was expected and what follows should be the better for workers
I’m aware of the background of the Vice-President, and I don’t have much compliments to make for her, as time has told she seems to be on the other side of the frame than Milei as she recently sought after increasing her own salary and other things Milei has been completely against since the beginning, I do think she’s very nationalist however, which seems to be something Argies can benefit from given her role on state defense. The atrocities of the military are not to be forgotten, but I personally do believe it is not their obligation to apologize for their blood
Thank you for the quick answer. Okay, so yesterday Milei attended the WEF conference at Davos where he denounced the “woke” agenda, compared homosexuality with children sexual abuse, defended Elon Musk who just a few days prior did a NAZI SALUTE on Trump’s Inauguration… This has been a very weird week here in Argentina.
It is not that it is an obligation for her to apologize. She should not be trying to destroy 40 years of good policy making for remembrance by denying what the military did, what the context was.
I agree with you that the economic stability is good. Now, will it last? Are the circunstances good enough for the economy to re ignite itself? Because we have to take into account that we have a mostly frozen economy. We need to know if we can overstep the curve and get more job stability, less poverty. It is not that easy to do. He did got inflation to get as low as he could. Was it all he had to do? Not in the slightest, and those who payed for it were majorly common working class citizens. Also, big companies have augmented their revenue a lot in this year. Nevertheless, the point still stands on what will happen. That I’m not sure.
And I need to be abundantly clear, I’d love for the country to get better and de-stagnate. But I fear it could give rise to disproportionate amounts of power being redirected to the officialism party (which is composed of neo-nazis, genocide deniers, corporate leaders, flat earthers, religious maniacs) and violence being practiced in more physical ways to political opposition via legislative elections this week. Democracy is the will of the people, but it shouldn’t be possible to make things undemocratic or give power to those who do not respect those institutions. We will see. I hope i’m wrong.
It’s been a most constructive talk thus far, but i’m also leaning in towards “We’ll see” at this point, if we may meet again next year to further discuss progress i’ll gladly assist for I am also hoping for the best for the country.
It would be crazy to ask for you to keep this message on notifications for the rest of the year so if you don’t want I can do it instead with your next reply, until then i’ll keep my eyes open and for you in Argentina keep your face to the wind friend