cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/8915892
(original article in Swedish that reported this)
Posting this because I hadn’t heard about it before and I’m probably not the only Mullvad user here, so might as well.
The party claims to stand for a “class-conscious populism” which according to party leader Markus Allard takes inspiration from marxist ideology and unites the “productive” classes of society against the “Transferiat”, with the “Transferiat” being a term coined by Allard to describe the classes of society that lives off transfers that are a net negative for society such as those who, despite having an ability to work, live off social welfare benefits, as well as those who work “made-up services”[…]
The party differs from modern day left-wing parties by seeing the working class as co-dependent with people working in enterprise and business and instead sees the classes that “live off transfers”, as specified, as a large economic net-negative and an obstacle for a functional society.
Their ideology is nonsense fake-marxist revisionism to redirect anger at capitalism and turn it against immigrants and people who need social welfare (though they do back some generally left oriented social policies, their main thing appears to be racism)
Even if you’re comfortable with funding this, it still begs the question of just how trustworthy Mullvad actually is.
I guess this still beats any of the dozens of Israeli VPNs that definitely spy on you, but it’s not great
It is a choice, but being a nazi doesn’t automatically mean that the country you live in is a nazi country, or that the company you co-founded is a nazi company.
True
False
Maybe not if you have a hundred co-founders…but if you have one co-founder…you probably just founded a nazi company ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mullvad doesn’t have 1 founder/1 ceo
“one co-founder” no sense
“one co-founder” means there’s at least two founders. And if one of them is a nazi, they founded a nazi company.
consider logic, ask a friend, or teacher to help you.
Idk, Mullvad seems to have two founders with 50% shares. 0.5 is rounded up, so logic dictates it is one full nazi company, when one of the founders is a nazi. The co-founder is at least complicit.
I started three companies with co-founders. I know them, they’re not nazis. It is not hard to figure the political views of your peers when you start a business together ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You did not start any companies.
Using numbers does not = actual math
Using the word “logic” incorrectly is illogical.
How much crack do you smoke?
But I am smoking crack 😅.
I doubt you could even start a car.
Huh? That’s an extremely odd comparison. Citizens of a country are not inherently fascist just because their leader is, but if they hold the same ideology they can go fuck themselves.
I didn’t say anything about the other co founder, but let me put it this way… The company is owned by both of them. One of them made a half million donation. By proxy it makes the other person look bad. Its as they say, bad for business. My overall point is that I would not trust my privacy with this company as one half of the owners have access to the prod environment, your logs and clearly wants to harm others based on his political views.
I’m really not sure what you’re playing devils advocate for. Are you worried that people will assume you hold those views? Do you own stock in the company? Are you worried about restriction of speech? Genuinely I’d like to know.
I am someone who uses mullvad, but after looking into this, I requested and received a refund for the 4 months of future use I paid for a week, or so ago. I now have 3 weeks left of mullvad use, and no replacement.
Do you really expect people to fall for your bullshit? Is this your first day online, or is that just your target audience? Are you keeping up with the kardashians?
Be honest, or be elsewhere.
You completely ignored the argument above. Or didn’t read. Are you ok? Did you reply to the correct comment?
But no replacement?
Here:
https://vpn.techlore.tech/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1ijfqfLrJWLUVBfJZ_YalVpstWsjw-JGzkvMd6u2jqEk/htmlview#gid=231869418
Appreciate the techlore link, I will assess the companies listed. That is the only reason I am still following this deliberately trash thread, to find alternatives.
The google link though… nord at the top, affiliate links… 🤡
I have replied multiple times to the same questions, always honestly, always as someone who uses mullvad, but has been refunded due to this. I’m not shilling for, or against them, not denying where the money goes, not pretending one ceo is the company.
“are you ok?” get over yourself.
I asked you a few legitimate questions and just as it always is, you lost the intellectual race.
Go fuck yourself, Nazi sympathizer.
There is nothing at all legitimate, or intellectual about you.
I requested and received a refund, how many times do I have to write that?
Try not being trash.
Again, you have dodged every question I asked, you absolute anthropomorphic dunce cap of a person. Try not to forget how to breathe anytime soon.
“Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand”
Congratulations on the syllables though, keep up the good work there.
If you’re looking for a replacement and don’t actually need the privacy/anonymity then ivpn might be a good choice. You can screw it up and set up an account that can’t possibly by as safe as mullvad but if you’re careful and know what you’re doing you can also get damn close to it. Theoretically.
But if it matters it’s probably time to reup mullvad with a new account id and cash through the mail instead of whatever they refunded you through.
ivpn lacks servers in the southern hemisphere. I have spoken with them (their customer service appears to be good), and they plan a server in new zealand, but no idea when.
I could/might trial them, but server lack/distance is likely to be an issue.
Were I in the northern hemisphere, they would probably be top of the list.
If you can tolerate using crypto instead of cash, ovpn has Singapore servers and that’s close.
If you could be careful with your account information and send cash you could probably make proton work, they got lots of servers where you need them. You’d have to resist the temptation to add some newfangled service though.
Ngl between your reply to me and others you sound like the kind of person who should stick with mullvad.
I only recently started using the mullvad application as opposed to configs and maybe it’s because I was on configs for so long or maybe it’s mullvads app quality being better than average but I’ve been impressed with it across all platforms.
Not sure why you say that, but yes, mullvad (until now) was the only company ticking the boxes
ivpn and airvpn seem the only others who are close to it, but both also have significant issues for me. I have looked into a lot of alternatives, and ‘resources’ the last couple of years.’
Northern hemisphere this would be much easier.
Oh I meant that you seem to be concerned with the actual functionality of the tools and service from a safety perspective and need servers in place other than where the ppl who want to go stealth mode and load hacking tools are.
I have used servers in many countries in the past with poor results. New Zealand is the ideal for me (it’s not an ideal world of course).
My base internet is approx 100Mbps, speed drops are noticeable these days, even though 30Mbps was easily decent enough in the past.
Singapore is always an option (one of few), but would need to be tested.
ovpn is not linux friendly,I believe they have an app for ubuntu, but nothing else. Can of course do manual settings, but ytf should I?
I really would have liked to have been able to use mullvad for a few years at least, only switched over form proton last year, and only switched to proton because my previous vpn compnay vanished with my money.
Oh, I keep windscribe for general purpose unimportant stuff. They have servers all over the place. No clue how well they hold up, only ever used em for geofencing bypass with scripts.
They’re running a sale on whatever their pro service is and that gets you nz servers.
I can fire up their app in a little bit and see how it works, what distribution are you running?
I’m on manjaro kde
Windscribe has their app on the AUR, I would rather it was on official (like mullvad) but that is really asking too much, not a huge dealbreaker.
From memory the app was okay. I tried their free, but then they didn’t verify my email or something so the paid didn’t work, resulting customer service and other online interactions have been weird though, both the owner and the ai customer service. Windscribe is also reported to have had a security issue where they were searched or whatever, and failed (they apparently had user data), the owner is also reported to be a transphobe - grain of salt with both of those, I haven’t verified them.
i just did new testing (speedtest) with mullvad: singapore and malaysia were both decent enough, although a high ping with malaysia. indonesia, philippines, and thailand were also decent enough speedwise.
Singapore appears a feasible alternative (at least the mullvad servers), have not found mention of their privacy etc laws yet though. Malaysia occasionally pops up on ‘best locations’ lists.
What is wrong with iVPN? They are also no logs and take cash as far as I can tell. Them and AirVPN seem like solid alternatives.
southern hemisphere = lack of servers. airvpn does have some servers in new zealand so they are okay in this regard
ivpn has servers in australia, which to me are pointless due to australian internet laws, they currently have no servers in new zealand.
linux = airvpn gui is a long way past needing updating, and does not even have split tunnelling. can do manual or cli instead though… just would rather not.
ivpn gui will not even install on my system, with an error I have never seen, tied into some dependency which a quick search of appears to have a long history of security vulnerabilities.
Still following these threads hoping for another alternative to these 2
I have used ivpn in the past. I currently use air for port forwarding stuff.
There is nothing “wrong” with ivpn. You can, if you’re careful, avoid setting up an account, associating an email, choose a limited set of services and pay with cash and get, theoretically, what you get with mullvad.
The difference is that with mullvad it’s much harder to do something you didn’t know was a problem. That’s not a thing that’s “wrong” with i. Lots of people expect to be able to log in to their account and recover their password with an email and use a bunch of additional nice apps and services like what i offers. That’s not wrong.
I said theoretically above and above that because i has not been under the same degree of scrutiny as mullvad. So it’s kind of like the veteran choosing a dented shield over a newly built one because “i know this one has stopped a blow”.
Air is… a piracy vpn. An eagle eyed user is expected to read between the lines to understand that and understand what it means.