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      It was a school of some desert people far away. So it’s basically irrelevant to the citizen of The Great US Empire.

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      Not so much an AI thing as much as an American thing. Americans and Israelis love doing that shit.

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    Only a matter of time. We don’t need to worry about Terminator and Skynet. We need worry about everything going from engineered to automated cargo cult slop. All run on massive datacenters controlled by a few mega corporation that everyone is hopelessly dependent on and can’t imagine working without. The trillionaire owners of these mega corporations are hiding in bunkers waiting on one of coming calamities to happen, or just from us unwashed masses. While they buy governments and media to keep and increases their riches.

    This future sucks. Can I try another one?

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      I came across this conspiracy theory the other day.

      You know how back in the day, company towns had to use company scrip to make sure workers couldn’t leave?

      Well, not you can be tracked by AI, and as soon as you leave your “boundaries” granted to you by your level of privilege, suddenly your bank card stops working, because that looks like a “fraudulent transaction”.

      The systems are already in place, too. If I go on an impromptu road trip and spend money six states over, my bank calls me and tells me my card is being used in a weird place, and they ask if that transaction is legit. Usually I can be like “yep, let it through” and everything is fine.

      What if the AI decides that in fact everything is not fine, and I don’t need to be able to spend money outside of my town?

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    AI vibecoded nuclear plant. What could go wrong? You just need to add “no nuclear meltdown” at the end of the prompt.

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    I’ll worry about ‘AI’ when something that can legitimately be mistaken as intelligence is demonstrated.

    In the meantime, these explosively imprecise, statistically luke-warm, grey goo extrusion sphincters need to be exclusively opt-in, and not forced on anyone who hasn’t explicitly consented to a lobotomy.

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      Yeah, this article is promoting the doomsday AI myth which is the narrative that these companies want us to go with, because it makes their products seem powerful. In reality, people are already turning against this technology en masse — not because they’re afraid it’ll turn into Skynet, but because it sucks shit.

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      Why wait? What is with people trying to act so slick and cool?

      Yes, it sucks, but it’s a) being used as if it’s intelligent, which is arguably much worse, and b) going to eventually get to a point where it’s at least not terrible(at its job, specifically, as it’s pretty bad for a lot of things).

      For a personal reason, I’m worried about it because it’s very likely filtering my CV based on a work gap that’s only getting worse because my CV is getting filtered. It’s not intelligent, but HR companies and departments are using it for that anyway.

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        It’s already not bad for certain specific, niche applications. Check out PlantNet. It’s awesome. You can take a picture of a plant, and it’ll identify it for you. No micro-transactions; you don’t even have to log in. It just works.

        Obviously, that isn’t one of the applications of Machine Learning that people have a problem with. It’s the LLMs filtering out your resume or spying on you or producing slop.

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    Chernobyl didn’t turn the world against nuclear powerplants forever so it’s probably fine.

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    Did someone say creating fake news in masses to scare people away from genAI?

    Count me in!

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    I mean, it’s not like we have turned away from nuclear power. There are still dozens of new plants being build every year worldwide.

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      Torment does not create torment. It’s being created by the torment factory within the nexus. Nexus was not valued.

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    Already used in ukraine war, palestenian genocide rtc. See autonomous drones.

    We should already be against AI but mainstream media and class consciousness are suppressed to serve our billionaire overlords

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      Also in the genocide in Sudan. They killed a whole city, Al Faschir or El Fasher. Over 70,000 people disappeared in one night when the city was invaded. Most of them are probably dead - what remained were blood puddles visible on satellite images.

      There is a detailed, very high quality report in the renowned German newspaper DIE ZEIT that tried to reconstruct what happened:

      https://www.zeit.de/2026/16/kriegsverbrechen-al-faschir-sudan-darfur-rsf/komplettansicht

      It is, after the report of WWII allies reaching German concentration camps, and the testimonies from Hiroshima, among the worst and most depressing things I have ever read.

      Seems like Ukraine needed money, and sold drones to Saudi Arabia. And Saudi gave the weapons to the Arab side of the civil war. Which included the forces which besieged and destroyed Al Fashir.

      If AI was perhaps a neutral technology before, this is certainly not the case any more.

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    On the other hand, it would be a smart tactical move to start the Butlerian Jihad early enough before it turns into a potential extintion event.

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    People haven’t paid attention to the warnings from the Dune movie.

    Not every country was bothered by Chernobyl. The winners will keep using AI.

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    Wait, so its not the actual event and ensuing casualties that have AI researchers spooked, but the fact that it might cause the public to turn against AI?

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      Watch thiel, huang, karp etc videos. As far as they are concerned we are irrelevant at best, more accurately we are in the way, and we are a waste of resources that should belong to ai.

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      “Sir, our model has caused several explosions around the globe resulting in hundreds of thousands dead and people rioting against us.”

      “No! MY PROFIT!”

      (I wish I could add an /s.)

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      It’s like responding to your employee losing an arm, ripped off by your tiger, and saying “I’m never going to financially recover from this.”

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      Let me put this in perspective:

      In many countries its against the law to freely distribute plans for making neurotoxins or bombs, because the democratization of such knowledge would lower the threshold for people to commit acts of terror.

      Likewise the plans for making a hydrogen bomb are a close kept government secret, because nuclear proliferation increases the likelihood of radiological accidents or even nuclear war.

      How is it then that AI companies freely publish their AI models to any and all actors willing to pay them? Even though they know that this technology lowers the threshold for bad actors to commit cybercrime, engage in cyberwarfare, spread misinformation, commit fraud, manipulate markets and whatnot? The unregulated democratization of AI exposes societies to unprecedented risks.

      Is it any wonder the public holds a negative view on AI?

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        That knowledge is nowhere near as restricted as you think. People regularly build small thermonuclear reactors in their basements for shits and giggles. It’s not exactly cutting edge technology.

        Similarly, anyone with slightly more than a passing interest in model rockets knows someone who’s been visited by the ATF, as your average solid fuel model rocket engine is basically a pipe bomb with one of the endcaps taken off.

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        Likewise the plans for making a hydrogen bomb are a close kept government secret, because nuclear proliferation increases the likelihood of radiological accidents or even nuclear war.

        I think they removed it, but I watched a documentary on Netflix explaining how to make a basic nuclear bomb.

        Really the only hard part is obtaining the enriched uranium. Which is, thankfully, very hard.

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        Why are you comparing a tool used for knowledge and action augmentation to weapons created for destruction? Because your statement would look dumb if you said “electric motors and encyclopedias” instead of “neurotoxins and bombs”.

        I can use both electric motors and encyclopedias to inflict mass casualties against people who refuse to use them or the results of their labor, but that doesn’t make them like bombs and neurotoxins. You’re simply scared of a new technology because it’s so different.

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          @Nouvellalia you can trick the information machine to give you pretty much any information you want, as long as you don’t care how accurate it is. So if someone lies well enough, they can either get the plans for weapons of mass destruction like @metermatic26 was talking about, or they can get incorrect plans that are incredibly dangerous to even try. If the plans are correct, they can hurt anyone they want. If the plans are incorrect, they can hurt themselves and others they don’t want to.

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          “Why are you comparing a tool used for knowledge and action augmentation”

          Surely you are joking.

          Are you using the LLM to write ?

          Moving the goalposts implies …
          you just don’t make any sense.
          This is one of the problems of AI.
          The appearance of making sense, without any
          actual sense making.

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            Most of y’all sound like you’re from facebook. Like a bunch of kids who never left the curated tribalism of the schoolyard.

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          I’m a data and AI specialist, so no…I’m not scared of technology :p

          I’ll explain my argument: AI is technology that can be used for software automation. Neither software in general or AI are dangerous technologies in and of themselves. Just as nuclear energy or jet propulsion are not dangerous technologies in and of themselves.

          But the application of technology is never ever neutral, so rules and regulations are always necessary to dictate the context and the conditions in which technology is being applied.

          And therein lies the issue: Big Tech is allowing their models and platforms to be used to create applications that are inherently harmful. For example, how is it not a problem when people create deepfake porn of their underaged ex-girlfriend?

          And mind you this is not an oversight: tech companies know well in advance what their models can be used for and the issues themselves can be fixed easily. They simply chose to accept the damage inflicted unto individuals and security and stability of society as a whole.

          All so they can get ahead of the crowd and maximize their market share. If anything, this article is a testament to this clash of interests between society and big tech.

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            You can’t possibly be what you claim to be. All the other problems with your argument aside, it is not trivial to make a model that is “safe” and functional at the same time. It has not been done.

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          It’s really not even so different. “AI” in the current LLM-era just tricks people into thinking it’s something fundamentally different because it can string together words in a more coherent sentence than we’re used to.

          At its core, though, the whole premise of the comment you’ve replied to is the argument that knowledge is dangerous and I hope I don’t have to explain why that’s a bad argument.

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            Knowledge without wisdom and decent morals can be incredibly dangerous.

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            AI is a universe simulator that uses the fuzzy logic of language instead of hard math. It is a real-time interface between the human and thousand of years of collective knowledge and understanding. It is an epoch change, even if you remove the idea that it is a thinking being like you.

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              Ai is a banana toast simulator that uses farty logic of sandwich instead of hard knock life. It is a cereal box interface between the zombie and thousands of seconds of contrived marketing and manipulation. It is a diaper change, even if you remove the asparagus it is a toilet bowl full of arsenic.

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          True, there are more valid reasons to hate AI, like that its usage inherently degrades the livability of our only planet or that it only functions due to artistic and intellectual property theft.

          However, you’re glossing over the reality that AI is already being used in weapons. It was also used by my government’s regime to illegally kidnap the president of another country, even.

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            Electric motors and encyclopedias are irreplaceable in weapons. All electronics are used in weapons.

            Farming, fishing, and electricity inherently degrade our planet far more than AI. They should all be used sustainably, wisely, and with an eye to ecosystem health and future generations. You’ll get absolutely no argument from me there. Banning any of them or limiting their access to only the governments and corporations who are doing almost all the damage, is insanity.

            When it comes to IP theft, that is a huge, non-ai problem. Again, corporations are responsible for almost all of the damage and we reap none of the benefits, even before AI was ever introduced. The problem is with how we allow corporations to copyright and restrict things for generations.

            The solution is that AI, the technology that required all of humanity to contribute knowledge for it to exist, should be free for all to use. Why would IP theft be a reason to limit AI ownership to only corporations and governments? That’s completely backwards.

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              Farming, fishing, and electricity inherently degrade our planet far more than AI.

              They’re also necessary for existence (at least the first two, but when it comes to medical applications, really electricity too).

              AI slop? Nope.

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                re: your 1st point: deliberately disingenuous due to scale and time. re: your 2nd point: No

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                  I promise we won’t need shitty images of babies driving a boat with shrimp Jesus, no matter how much time passes.

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                Nope, we all lived just fine without farming and fishing. Then we lived just fine without industrial farming and fishing. We lived most of human existence without either, and certainly without modern medicine.

                You just like those things and you don’t like AI.

                Then you dress all AI applications down to “AI slop”. Which if you want to move the goalposts to “AI slop”, we can agree that it’s about as necessary as high fructose corn syrup and streaming entertainment. Do you fuss on those as hard as frivolous AI usage?

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                  lmao that’s actually so stupid I’m not even going to bother responding

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                  @Nouvellalia @7101334 funny how really the only argument AI boosters can make with regards to its environmental impact is “what about all the other stuff that is worse”. What about it? What about that? Look over there! Yes I’ve been concerned about all those things, for many years, because I’ve been concerned about climate change, for many years. You haven’t?