“The Iranian regime is horrible” but how do we know this? You say this as if it’s a fact. As if you believe every mainstream article you read since you were a kid. As if you’ve allowed yourself to be shown only the most extreme anecdotes.
But worst is that you talk as if it’s your business. It’s not. It’s the Iranian people’s business.
The more you support anti-Iranian propaganda, the more hardline Iran has to become. The US and CIA couped Iran once, now tried a second time very openly, but they are constantly supporting “non-profit pro-democracy organizations” which are just there to destabilize. THIS you don’t seem to understand. It’s like a bully constantly punching someone weaker and when they fight back by cracking down on spies and foreign funded organizations meant to destabilize their nation, you come and say “Oh how horrible! They poor people only wanted freedum! I can be your white savior and explain democracy to you!”
Ok ok, I went way overboard there lol, sorry. Nothing against you. But this is the general mechanism. Destabilize with color revolutions, paint a picture in imperial media, then condemn when the “shithole country” defends itself.
Don’t forget, there has never been any evidence that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon even CIA admitted that. And yet still the iranian people have faced crippling sanctions which ultimately destroyed the middle class which is important to build a more robust democracy. US Empire doesn’t like democracy, definitely not in countries which natural resources it wants to steal.
So frankly no, two things aren’t true at the same time. One is much truer than the other. One is what you and your empire or alliance does. The other thing is what you heard about a foreign, far away country which resources we want to steal from their population. Leave Britney alone!
You’re making a bunch of very condescending assumptions about where I get my info. For many years I have personally interacted with many Iranians from Iran. I’m not talking Shah supporters who left in '79, I’m talking folks born in Iran in the 80s-90s-00s who have families back home. I have friends and colleagues who were part of movements from the 2011 green protests all the way to the Mahsa Amini protests. Friends on whom I checked when there were big protests back home and now whenever the Americans and Israelis bomb their city of origin (“is your sister/mom/home OK?”). These are people whose heart bleeds for their home and are furious at the regime. So, you know, back off buddy.
Ok ok fine, sorry, you have some rare second hand though anecdotal evidence.
But I simply do not want to hear how bad Iran is and this both sideism and lets talk every monday about how the regime in Iran is a dictatorship (wrong) and so on. Because we know where it leads. Sanctions, agitation, and now war.
With both-sides-bad you’re STILL attacking Iran while they are defending against the USA. You’re helping the imperialists. That is the effect of stories like OP.
Iran is a country that has been under siege, under economic attack by the USA and everyone the USA controls. When the USA does sanctions, they threaten sanctions against anyone who breaks their unilateral sanctions. And still they are not just hanging on but managed to fight back the unprovoked and illegal US and Israel attacks.
And again, they MUST go hardline on protesters. What other choice do they have? Surrender to the USA? Killing a few hundred protesters is unfortunately preferable if that prevents a regime change. Do you think they like it? I’m sure they don’t. But they feel they must, to keep in power, which is absolutely their duty. They are at war, and the sanctions are explicitly meant to create unrest.
I wish the Iranian people more freedom and peace. Personally not a fan of Islam. I wish I could see how they would do without being under attack by the largest superpower in the world.
“The Iranian regime is horrible” but how do we know this? You say this as if it’s a fact. As if you believe every mainstream article you read since you were a kid. As if you’ve allowed yourself to be shown only the most extreme anecdotes.
But worst is that you talk as if it’s your business. It’s not. It’s the Iranian people’s business.
The more you support anti-Iranian propaganda, the more hardline Iran has to become. The US and CIA couped Iran once, now tried a second time very openly, but they are constantly supporting “non-profit pro-democracy organizations” which are just there to destabilize. THIS you don’t seem to understand. It’s like a bully constantly punching someone weaker and when they fight back by cracking down on spies and foreign funded organizations meant to destabilize their nation, you come and say “Oh how horrible! They poor people only wanted freedum! I can be your white savior and explain democracy to you!”
Ok ok, I went way overboard there lol, sorry. Nothing against you. But this is the general mechanism. Destabilize with color revolutions, paint a picture in imperial media, then condemn when the “shithole country” defends itself.
Don’t forget, there has never been any evidence that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon even CIA admitted that. And yet still the iranian people have faced crippling sanctions which ultimately destroyed the middle class which is important to build a more robust democracy. US Empire doesn’t like democracy, definitely not in countries which natural resources it wants to steal.
So frankly no, two things aren’t true at the same time. One is much truer than the other. One is what you and your empire or alliance does. The other thing is what you heard about a foreign, far away country which resources we want to steal from their population. Leave Britney alone!
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You’re making a bunch of very condescending assumptions about where I get my info. For many years I have personally interacted with many Iranians from Iran. I’m not talking Shah supporters who left in '79, I’m talking folks born in Iran in the 80s-90s-00s who have families back home. I have friends and colleagues who were part of movements from the 2011 green protests all the way to the Mahsa Amini protests. Friends on whom I checked when there were big protests back home and now whenever the Americans and Israelis bomb their city of origin (“is your sister/mom/home OK?”). These are people whose heart bleeds for their home and are furious at the regime. So, you know, back off buddy.
Ok ok fine, sorry, you have some rare second hand though anecdotal evidence.
But I simply do not want to hear how bad Iran is and this both sideism and lets talk every monday about how the regime in Iran is a dictatorship (wrong) and so on. Because we know where it leads. Sanctions, agitation, and now war.
With both-sides-bad you’re STILL attacking Iran while they are defending against the USA. You’re helping the imperialists. That is the effect of stories like OP.
Iran is a country that has been under siege, under economic attack by the USA and everyone the USA controls. When the USA does sanctions, they threaten sanctions against anyone who breaks their unilateral sanctions. And still they are not just hanging on but managed to fight back the unprovoked and illegal US and Israel attacks.
And again, they MUST go hardline on protesters. What other choice do they have? Surrender to the USA? Killing a few hundred protesters is unfortunately preferable if that prevents a regime change. Do you think they like it? I’m sure they don’t. But they feel they must, to keep in power, which is absolutely their duty. They are at war, and the sanctions are explicitly meant to create unrest.
I wish the Iranian people more freedom and peace. Personally not a fan of Islam. I wish I could see how they would do without being under attack by the largest superpower in the world.
Oh boy.