• Nautalax@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    At the core of the defense paradigm. Since Ukraine has a gigantic military (currently more personnel than even France), pretty cutting edge work on drone and anti-drone warfare and has been fighting for years against the EU’s biggest land threat. They’re not saying Ukraine is at the core of Europe the continent…

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      Why is Russia the “EU’s biggest land threat”?

      That’s exactly the point. Allying with Ukraine is the main thing that drives that.

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        Previously the European states learned that letting some major power go around willy-nilly annexing strips of land and entire states from their neighbors does not end well. They’re on Russia’s list of unfriendly countries, are subject to Russian influence operations that are not especially appreciated and there is some evidence to suggest that Russia would seek to reclaim lands from eastern EU states if given the opportunity. Plus the occasional bombing and constant rhetoric against them. So obviously they will prefer to back Ukraine rather than letting Russia absorb it, become stronger and start eyeing the next country.

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          that letting some major power go around willy-nilly annexing strips of land and entire states from their neighbors does not end well

          Which power was that?

          and there is some evidence to suggest that Russia would seek to reclaim lands from eastern EU states if given the opportunity

          What evidence is that?

          Because, again, the logic from you chicken hawks seems only to be that Europe must support Ukraine fighting Russia, because it is obvious Russia is an enemy, based on the fact that they are fighting Ukraine.

          Notice the issue there? Nowhere is there any threat to Europe listed.

          and constant rhetoric against them

          wait, so rhetoric is a casus belli now?

          In that case, isn’t this NAFO style crap direct aggression? They’re very loud about how they’re willing to fight to the last Ukrainian - of course, not when they’d be in danger themselves - but how it’s good that Russians are dying.

          Russia has made no threat I’m aware of to attack any EU member. If you have evidence of such, present it. Otherwise, your weasel words are just that.