• Proton VPN has hit back at Canada’s proposed Bill C-22

• The proposed legislation could require VPNs to log user metadata

• NordVPN and Windscribe have also slammed the bill

  • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    They’re not at all above criticism. The thing is all we have in the way of criticism is article after article of misinformation born from either technical ignorance or deliberate misrepresentation of the facts. None of which stand up to a moments scrutiny, much less “prove” anything.

    On the more innocent side of the scale, you’ll have people chastising Proton over negatives that are entirely out of their control, and exist because they have to when operating as a public email provider. Then those same people will point people to alternatives like Fastmail or Tutanota that have all the same problems, but are less transparent about it.

    Like if you want to make an argument against public email providers as a whole you can surely do so, but so far there’s really no evidence that Proton is anything but as good as you are reasonably going to get if you do decide to use one.

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      all we have in the way of criticism is article after article of misinformation

      Ironic you made misinformation to claim this. It’s a strawman. Anyway

      negatives that are entirely out of their control

      No, it’s their false advertisement that claims it is within their control.

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        Ironic you made misinformation to claim this. It’s a strawman. Anyway

        I didn’t make any misinformation. Nor is there a strawman. If you think there is “article after article” of proof then feel free to provide a couple.

        No, it’s their false advertisement that claims it is within their control.

        Like what exactly?

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          I didn’t make any misinformation. Nor is there a strawman

          You claimed there was misinformation. Show us where you think it is. Don’t be a hypocrite.

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            21 hours ago

            You claimed there is article after article of proof. Go ahead and share it with us. You can’t just uno-reverse the burden of proof for your claim to me lol.

            There is plenty of misinformation in this thread alone. Like this comment here

            Which consists of a completely fabricated story about Proton with no evidence that it happened, and some anecdote the OP heard from somebody else with no verification whatsoever.

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              11 hours ago

              You decided to claim multiple articles were misinformation. Provide them. I’ve posted articles elsewhere here already.

              Comments are not articles. Show your work or simply admit you are a misinfo agent by your standards.

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                9 hours ago

                You claimed multiple articles are proof of Protons wrongdoing and seem to be unable to provide a single one. If you can’t back up your accusations then that makes you the misinformation agent I’m afraid.

                It’s not my responsibility to go find these ambiguous and unidentified articles you’re referencing for you. If I tried you’d just say “Oh that’s not one of the ones I meant”. If they are as abundant as you claim, you’d have no trouble finding a couple. So we can scrutinize them properly.

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                  If you haven’t seen multiple articles, you can’t claim they spreading misinformation. Either post the articles or walk back your lie.

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                    I’m still waiting on you to share your articles of proof, which obviously do not exist. If you’re not going to post them, then all that’s been proven is that you’re a misinformation bot who can’t back up his accusations. If you manage to post something, we can scrutinize it and I can explain to you why it’s misinformation. But you’d have to post them.

                    It’s not my job to find the nonexistent articles you’re talking about for you. The burden of proof is entirely on you here.