Privacy giants are pushing back hard against the proposed Lawful Access Act

• Proton VPN has hit back at Canada’s proposed Bill C-22

• The proposed legislation could require VPNs to log user metadata

• NordVPN and Windscribe have also slammed the bill

  • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
    102·
    1 day ago

    Because proton not only accepts people on blacklists as deserving to be there with no way to appeal, despite you know, things

    You’re going to have to elaborate or rephrase this because I have no idea what you’re trying to say here

    they also removed like thousands of people that the US government said they were suspicious of they sent them a list and they suspended all their email accounts, no appeal nothing. Based on the word of the United States government, a famously untrustworthy source. I say that as United States citizen.

    No they didn’t.

    • bedwyr@piefed.caEnglish
      36·
      1 day ago

      First of all the second part was in the news just like 6 9 months ago, I might not have an entirely right but that’s generally what they did, they took the word off governments over people. Second of all I happen to know they accept blacklists as trustworthy, I know because someone who isn’t me is on one and they refused them an account.

      In truth they are Israel’s bitch. In short.

      • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
        61·
        1 day ago

        I might not have an entirely right but that’s generally what they did, they took the word off governments over people

        No they didn’t. Thats not “generally” what they did at all. You’re just spreading more misinformation that you admittedly aren’t even very confident about.

        Second of all I happen to know they accept blacklists as trustworthy, I know because someone who isn’t me is on one and they refused them an account.

        Do you have any proof of this? Or are you just going with “I heard from a guy”?

      • XLE@piefed.socialEnglish
        33·
        1 day ago

        Is it this, or something else?

        https://theintercept.com/2025/09/12/proton-mail-journalist-accounts-suspended/

        I’ve been following this on X/Twitter and I think one of the most egregious things that’s important to point out is that folks from Phrack reached out to Proton in private multiple times, and Proton ghosted them. Proton only engaged with them and then reinstated the accounts after Phrack went public and their X/Twitter post went viral. It also looks like one of the writers filed an appeal with Proton and Proton denied the appeal, so they manually investigated the incident and refused to reinstate the account and then only did after this got attention on X/Twitter.

        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45227316

          • Photonic@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            5 hours ago

            It’s just incredibly stupid and short-sighted.

            Edit: also, how are you tracking your downvotes? Serious question.

          • mabeledo@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            6 hours ago

            Because it’s dumb.

            Proton then stated that they “stand with journalists” but “cannot see the content of accounts and therefore cannot always know when anti-abuse measures may inadvertently affect legitimate activism.”

            Every legitimate email service has anti abuse policies in place. The alternative is letting the service be turned into a bot farming operation, or worse.

            Still waiting for your recommended alternatives.

          • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            5 hours ago

            You were trying to help out that other misinformation bot find the made up event he was talking about and you couldn’t. I downvoted it because that’s what you’re supposed to do with unhelpful information.

        • bedwyr@piefed.caEnglish
          33·
          1 day ago

          I do read The Intercept but that article is not what I’m talking about, there’s something else that was a lot worse than that that they did just last year. Someone who isn’t me signed up for an account and it’s totally legit and was denied because they’re on a blacklist because Israel and there was no way to like appeal on proton.

          • XLE@piefed.socialEnglish
            11·
            1 day ago

            I’d love to see that article if you can find it. I’ll add it to a folder’s worth of bookmarks that is growing larger than it should.

            • bedwyr@piefed.caEnglish
              1·
              1 day ago

              I was just saying my comment that while I do read that publication what I’m talking about is a direct experience of someone who is not me.